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On the point about business premises being targeted campaigns, I think the difference here is that giving out a private address also exposes other people living there to the consequences - including family and other loved ones. Councillors' home addresses used to be publicly available, but particularly since the explosion of social media, most are choosing to keep it private. Speak to anyone in elected office and they will tell you that this is because of an unprecedented rise in abuse. Undermining this in an attempt to intimidate someone you don't agree with is despicable and will have a very pernicious effect on the quality of the representation we receive as fewer people will choose to step up. The law is there to prevent this happening and the police are 100% right to try to enforce it.It should be stressed however that it is far from clear that this is what Alistair Hilton was trying to do here. He mentioned that Rick Rowe lived very very close to one of the affected pubs. In context this seems a reasonable point to make. He seems to be aware of the law and did try to respect it although he was skirting on its edge. He probably didn't anticipate the huge Twitterstorm that would emerge which will have Rick Rowe fearing for his personal safety.It also seems to me perfectly reasonable for Rick Rowe to contact the police about this matter particularly as his role in what happened may have been misrepresented and people were very angry about it. It isn't a huge leap to image people coming out of the pubs and shouting their disapproval outside his home or worse if the address was known.The notion that this is a free speech issue is complete nonsense and some portions of the media are only pushing this because controversy boosts their readership and they have sold their souls to the extent that they no longer bother properly researching a story.The fact is that, at this stage, we don't really know eaactly what happened. I asked earlier if anyone could confirm that Councillor Rowe had a history of complaints against these pubs as has been alleged online. This doesn't appear to have been true.The version of events I currently think is most likely is that Cllr Rowe did raise what appear to be legitimate concerns about pub goers not blocking the Thames Path. Possibly through inexperience his questions required licensing officers to address the current permissions and have become aware of the breaches, they did their job of enforcing the law. If you disagree with this tell us why but spare us rants about free speech as the facts show they are transparently bogus.

Francis Rowe ● 17d

This is what the legislation says, brought in by the last government. Fast track pavement licenceThe Business and Planning Act introduced a provision for a Pavement Licence, which covered the placement of removal street furniture on the highway. As of the 31st March 2024 through Section 229 and Schedule 22 of the Levelling Up and Regeneration Act 2023 that the Business and Planning Act 2020 has been amended. These amendments include:The set fee of £100 for both new and renewal of pavement licences has now changed to £350 for a renewal and £500 for a new licence under the Business and Planning Act 2020.The consultation and determination times have also increased from 7 days to 14 days.New enforcement powers have been introduced.This Act also make the pavement licence provisions permanent.The fast track application can be used for a pavement licence to put removable furniture on the highway adjacent to the premises. Premises for which an application can be made include pubs, cafes, bars, restaurants or other drinking establishment, and premises for the sale of food for consumption on or off the premises.These rules do not apply to crown land or land owned by Network Rail.If you are applying for a pavement licence to be located within a parking or loading bay please contact traffic@hounslow.gov.uk to enquire if the bay can be suspended prior to applying for a pavement licence as the bay must be suspended before a pavement licence could be issued. See: ParkletsIf you are applying for a pavement licence to be located in front of an adjacent premises you must provide written consent from the owner/occupier of the adjacent premise with your application. If this consent is removed, then the table and chairs must no longer be placed in front of the adjacent premise.Operators wishing to apply or renew a pavement licence can do so by completing the online eform and making payment. Please note that the granting of a pavement licence only permits the placing of furniture on the highway. Other regulatory frameworks still apply such as the need for alcohol licences and the need to comply with registration requirements for food businesses.The furniture which may be used is:Counters or stalls for selling or serving food or drinkTables, counters or shelves on which food or drink can be placedChairs, benches or other forms of seatingUmbrellas, barriers, heaters and other articles used in connections with the outdoor consumption of food and drinkFurniture is required to be removable i.e. not a permanent fixed structure but able to be moved easily and stored away of an evening.Before you apply, please note the following:You will need to provide the following documents with your application:Detailed plan of the external areas showing dimensions, width, depth of area to be licensed and distance to the nearest street furniture and kerb.Specify the days of the week and times that you will have the furniture on the streetDetails of your public liability insurance to cover activities on the streetIf you are looking to place your pavement licence in a parking or loading bay ensure you have the bay suspended prior to applyingIf you are applying for a pavement licence to be located in front of an adjacent premises you must provide written consent from the owner/occupier of the adjacent premise with your applicationNew licence fee £500Renewal licence fee £350 if applied for the same premises and on the same terms e.g. dates, times and dimensions as the expiring licenceUnless all the required documents are provided as part of this application consultation will not begin. We will email you to request the relevant document(s) needed and once provided consultation will begin.The consultation period is 14 days beginning the day after the day the application is made and the applicant must:On the day the application is made affix a notice in the front window of the premises so it is readily visible and can be read by the public.Ensure the notice remains up until the end of the consultation.We will provide the notice to you following receipt of your application. We recommend that you take a dated stamped photo of the notice at the start and at the end of your consultation period.We will process your licence in 14 days from the day after the application is made (excluding public holidays). This consists of 14 days for public consultation and 14 days to consider and determine the application after the consultation.If you have not heard back from council in 28 days, the application will deemed to be granted. Licences are now issued for a period of 12 months as the previous september expiry is no longer relevant due to the provisions being made permanent.Before determining an application, the Local Authority will:consider any representations madeconsult the Highways Authorityconsult other such persons as the Local Authority considers appropriate.grant or reject the application. If granted it can be for any or all of the purposes applied for and for some or all of the space applied for.Things to consider when applyingThe first and most important consideration is whether you have adequate outside space to use.The Local Authority has an obligation to meet the requirements of the Disability Discrimination Act 2005 (DDA 2005). This means that where your business is occupying pavement space, there must be a minimum of 1.5m unobstructed space between the outer edge of your tables and chairs space and the edge of the pavement or to the edge of another obstruction. This should be 2m on areas of high footfall but each case will be considered on its merits.

Vanessa Smith ● 20d

Yes of course Cllr Gabriella Giles was working quietly and effectively behind the scenes to try and clear up "the mess". Gabriella has served tirelessly on the Licensing and General Purposes Committees since her election in 2022. This is one of the hardest working Council Committees. Its decisions and deliberations have a direct impact on the lives of residents and the success of local businesses.The Council website shows that she attended far more of the 79 meetings held in the last four years than either the Chair of the Committee or his Deputy. The Chair, of course, receives an additional responsibility allowance of £8,530 pa that is paid whether or not he turns up. I am told that Gabriella regularly chaired meetings of the Committee in the absence of both the Chair and his Deputy.This is just part of the unglamourous work undertaken, usually unseen and unreported, by those councillors who take their responsibilities seriously.  Well done if you have kept reading my posting thus far.The reason I am labouring this point is that Chiswick Riverside is now represented by councillors from three different parties. The Green Party member is new to the role and has literally no experienced Green Party councillors to seek advice from.In such a situation it would really be sensible for him to "eat an little humble pie" and to seek advice from more experienced councillors. In this case Gabriella's experience on the Licensing Committee might have avoided all this embarrassing "mess".As a retired councillor I am not ashamed to admit that particularly as a newly elected councillor I sought advice from fellow councillors regardless of their political persuasion. Experience, knowledge and practical advice are not the sole prerogative of one party.

Sam Hearn ● 21d