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Reform UK

The BBC is giving a lot of airtime this morning to Richard Tice and Ben Habib to explain to us how the Conservatives are too left wing...

Susan Kelly ● 592d37 Comments

It’s easy, flip what you were told 180 degrees and you will find the truth starting with “safe and effective”.“Conspiracy theorists” are winning about 146 to nil but people are still unwilling to accept they were duped by the governments “nudge units” (who weaponised behavioural psychology) otherwise known as SPY-B.It should have been obvious from the start from the numerous videos of people collapsing in the street in China because that never happened here or anywhere else and the projections for fatalities were ridiculous and never materialised.But now we have access deaths in all ages that are off the charts and no daily press briefings but nobody seems to care.

Bryan Turner ● 558d

As opposed to all  the other nut jobs . Who don’t know what a woman is or what a terrorist is. Crazy world

Maggie Dodge ● 558d

That's the party led by that nut job?

Dick Greenleigh ● 558d

At the time I think I thought the same about care home workers, bearing in mind they were working with vulnerable people. . Now I’m totally confused as to the truth of anything to do with Covid.

Maggie Dodge ● 558d

Richard Tice wanted  the jab made compulsory for care home workers.

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 558d

The BBC is obscene to pay Gary Lineker  such obscene amounts of money.  Absolutely ridiculous. Waste of public money.

Steve Taylor ● 590d

Yes and just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not after you.UKIP wass a one issue party,btw.

Keith Iddon ● 590d

“The Right are well and truly in charge at the Beeb right now”If you are still looking at the world from a left/right perspective nothing will make sense.The BBC is there to prop up the state and to perpetuate a sense of normality while the country undergoes a controlled demolition. You have no idea how bad things are and how good they could possibly be.Have you taken down your Ukraine decorations and put up your Isreal ones yet by the way?

Bryan Turner ● 590d

UKIP got 27% of the vote in the 2014 EU elections (and the most EU MP’s).Then they couldn’t get a single MP into parliament.The system is rigged.

Bryan Turner ● 590d

The Green party get less time on UK terrestrial TV especially the BBC than any of the psuedo parties to the right of the Torieseven though they have had an MP and have been in charge as councillors in many councils now. It is the inequity of it all that promotes bias.  The Right are well and truly in charge at the Beeb right now and have been since Cameron got in in 2010 so they have developed an our way or the highway approach to news readers and journalists.  Independent companies make their news brands like Panarama which is why it has seen far better days as they are either made for months and badly edited or made in minutes and totally inacurate and biased.  The actual left in this country (no the Labour Party is only slightly to the left of the Tories not the actual left) never get a minute unless they write for the Guardian and then it is usually 7am radio/TV or late night.  The balance is gone. I miss World in Action, Arena all the superb Arts programmes.  All dumped in favour of 3 minute Fox like news segments and "Love Island"  It is not just the BBC it is the whole of MSM all bereft of quality and intellect in favour of has been actors on Newsnight and look how well that turned out.

Caroline Carney ● 590d

New political parties don’t happen over night. The more right you are the more mud they throw at you.

Maggie Dodge ● 590d

If you take into account the awful business of Lucy Letby and the poor babies, against the number of doctors who warned people in management - risking their own jobs in the process. It is easy to see that hiding in plain sight fools a hell of a lot of people - and so it is with all abusers. And people sometimes just don't want to hear what others are saying if it's too uncomfortable?

Vanessa Smith ● 591d

So how much airtime ?"Reform UK is polling in the low single figures and has no elected representatives except for 4 or 5 local councillors. Why would you give them the massive amount of airtime they had this morning?"In that case if you give depending on where you look the average 6-7% for reform uk makes the Lib Dems at 10-11% not worth the space or air time either.Lib Dmes might however take a seat or two and possibly loose a seat or two but reform uk can upset the vote when that 6-7% is suscess or failure in a marginal outcome.Dont forget UKIP only polled 1-2 % in 3 geeral elections so if reform uk polls 6-7% that makes them more relevant in some seats so they become relevant on the wider political platform with no seats to show for it.

Julian Pavey ● 591d

The school I went to had a fair amount of sexual abuse going on, and it was swept under the carpet, only coming out many years later. There were a brave few teachers who tried to raise awareness, and had their careers sidelined as a result.

Andrew Jones ● 591d

If you say that's the case, I've no reason to doubt you, I mentioned Margaret Thatcher as there is much more information about her dealings with Saville out there than with the other PMs you mentioned. I wasn't having a pop at Margaret Thatcher, but what I suppose I'm trying to say is that I find it difficult to believe that Saville's behaviour wouldn't have been known to people in the security services, so why didn't they warn off the PM?

Andrew Jones ● 591d

Was Margaret Thatcher part of the same British Establishment? And did the security services keep her in the dark about Saville?

Andrew Jones ● 591d

Of course he will. He’s an establishment figure. Always has been.

Bryan Turner ● 591d

Whatever crime Laurence Fox is accused of there are lots of other people equally , or more guilty of similar . Chris Packham for one. The fact that there’s a connection with blade runners is relevant I believe, as Khan has some say in who gets 6 over worked officers knocking on their door. As far as I know Ian Duncan Smith said he backed them and didn’t get a visit.

Maggie Dodge ● 591d

I think if you don’t like Nigel Farage he will  appear to be on a lot. Just a thought.

Maggie Dodge ● 591d

Reform are useless and inconsequential which is why the BBC gave them a platform. The electoral commission would never allow a political party to stand that are anti establishment. That’s how it works.Maybe people should be more concerned about how the police were allowed to raid, arrest and silence (via bail conditions) the leader of another political party as in Laurence Fox? What crime is he supposed to have committed?

Bryan Turner ● 591d

Maybe because they run a political party. I dont know susan,how much air time did they get. What is massive airtime these days Personally i dont watch BBC anymore,and i dont watch GB news either. Sounds more like you think they should not have a platform on the BBC from my thinking.

Julian Pavey ● 591d

I think the vast majority was taken in or just went with it. When you look at old footage, however, it makes you wonder how. Times, behaviour and what is thought of as acceptable change. Savile's behaviour was, in fact, staring us in the face.

Anne England ● 591d

The met police managed to “lose” the evidence:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossierAlso what was Jill Dando up to when she was murdered for apparently no reason?https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2698820/amp/Murdered-Crimewatch-presenter-Jill-Dando-tried-bosses-investigate-alleged-paeodphile-ring-inside-BBC-no-one-wanted-know.htmlThe BBC has always been an extension of the british establishment and security services. Who is the husband of the current head of BBC news?Stay stupid.

Bryan Turner ● 591d

'No,the BBC being open and impartial.'That would be the same impartiality that has Nigel Farage on Question Time every five minutes?Reform UK is polling in the low single figures and has no elected representatives except for 4 or 5 local councillors. Why would you give them the massive amount of airtime they had this morning?

Susan Kelly ● 591d

Yes and of course the same one who was regularly pictured with his 'friends' Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan, who was presented with a medal by Gordon Brown and who was a guest of Tony Bliar at Chequers.

N V Brooks ● 591d

Not employed by them though nor dependent on him for ratings.Many at the BBC knew what he was up to,that is well accepted but are you sure Thatcher or Charles knew anything about it? I doubt it.He was hiding behind his charity work,despicable article that he was,and that opens doors.

Keith Iddon ● 591d

And our wonderful King

Bryan Turner ● 591d

Is that the same Saville who had plenty of contact with Margaret Thatcher when she was prime minister?

Andrew Jones ● 591d

That's certainly so Phillipa but remember the BBC is publicly funded and has a global footprint.To have sex abusers and paedophiles hiding in plain sight because of corporate and chronic moral panic is a gross abdication of responsibility for what happens under its auspices.Brand,Savile,Harris were all paid by yours and my tax pounds and also those of the parents of those youngsters involved.

Keith Iddon ● 591d

Are you suggesting that there aren't now or never have been employees elsewhere who have taken advantage of their employer's goodwill?

Philippa Bond ● 591d

Vanessa, you might think differently if you’d ever tried to make a complaint about one of their employees. Brick wall comes to mind.  I know a lot of ex BBC people,  one way or another,  and they tell horror stories that make you realise that Saville may have been extreme but they don’t expect high morals from many of their people.. Support them if you like , that’s your choice, but I think your horse is a little high on this occasion . As for the salaries of some of their presenters and the way they spend  licence fee money on cars used as taxis for school girls , do you really not have any issues with them?

Maggie Dodge ● 591d

They may have been the best once they don't  have so many viewers now.

Janice Evans ● 591d

They are a bit like the nhs..good most of the time but when they get it wrong they do so in spades.Then they all close ranks and put their heads below the parapet and wait for their very generous pensions,at our expense of course.More shystery much of the time.

Keith Iddon ● 591d

I don't believe some of the stuff I read on here. The BBC may not be everyone's cup of tea, they may  not always get things 100% right - but they are a global broadcaster with a reputation envied the world over. From my point of view they do try to be as even-handed as possible, but then I don't watch or listen to the crap churned out by GB News, Fox et al, nor do I pay any attention to the likes of the gross Lawrence Fox, Neil Anderson or the absolutely vile Katie Hopkins and the rest of the crackpots. It is my honest opinion the BBC are the  best. We would be long sorry to lose the Beeb, and all political parties should butt out and stop interfering with it.

Vanessa Smith ● 591d

The BBC should not have survived Saville .

Maggie Dodge ● 591d

'Open and impartial' ha ha ha. That's the joke of the day :)

Basil Finnis ● 592d

No,the BBC being open and impartial. Given they yet again had to opologise over its newsnightguests calling for GB news to be shut down,maybe the BBC has seen the light

Julian Pavey ● 592d