Wow! I hadn’t realised my question (yes question!) would release such a stream of consciousness. But thank you for all your replies. I have replied to Paul’s post given it tangibly moves the question on, which is now "How many cyclists are actually using C9?” I would however, like to provide some context to my original post. I was (and still am) hoping to establish some facts. The reason for asking about the Telraam was that in the summer on this forum Tom Pike waxed lyrical about it, with the specific claim in a post he started that “C9 bike numbers take off” for which his evidence was that “A new counter on Kings Street, just after the junction with Goldhawk Road, shows that while weekday bike counts in May and June were averaging around 2000, in the last three weeks they've increase very significantly to more than 3000.” It appears now to Tom Pike that this wasn’t accurate, which raises questions over his other claims. I do not believe I have misquoted Paul Campbell as he claims in his reply since around the same time as Tom Pike’s post he tweeted “Thank goodness for this cycle lane facilitating 3000 safe and clean journeys plus per day during these roadworks.” Campbell’s own data posted on this thread shows approximately 2,500 journeys per day on average in the summer, less in the winter, so would not support such a claim. So Paul does appear to have been jumping on Tom Pike’s Telraams bandwagon, and I think my original point was justified in quoting as such. And finally Paul says in this thread “And the time spent searching my posts to find my statement on the number of cyclists and the time spent imagining the glorious scenario of me owning the camera and being hosted by my own petard. This looks like an especially idiotic offshoot of the local Onesies at work.” Well firstly I didn’t spend any time. I remembered reading Paul’s claim in the summer and it took me about 5 seconds to search for it a moment ago. Second, I didn’t say Paul owned the camera – that’s Paul’s careful use of words – I said Paul asked for it to be fitted. How do I know this? Someone I know was in the shop buying some bike gear (yes I have cyclist friends – and horror – I am one myself!) and asked who had it fitted. The shop said it was Paul Campbell. Paul – are you denying your involvement? Third – I’m not a Onesie, as Paul calls it (which to be frank is pretty infantile language and discredits no one but himself), but a keen local cyclist, and motorist, interested in the truth. As Paul will already know (as he asked for the camera to be fitted) the camera is owned by his cycling buddy Leo Murray (who he follows on Twitter). How do I know? Well another 10s ‘research’ on Twitter finds Leo tweeting the King Street data from “my Telraam camera”. So what does this tell me so far. 1. The pro-cyclists seem to pick and choose their data to support their cause – Telraam was lauded in the summer when it supported 3000 cyclists, but dropped in the winter when it counted only 1000.2. I would never believe anything posted by Tom Pike as he particularly manipulates data. For example, even while claiming there were 3000 bikes reported by Telraam what he didn’t tell you (but is found on their website) is that it can’t distinguish between bicycles and motorbikes (or indeed pushchairs) – it actually counts “two-wheelers”, but Pike keenly represented those as bicycle only, which I think was particularly misleading when the camera is situated next to a Papa John’s and an Indian takeaway both of which have motorised “two wheelers” taking off all day and night, which will have boosted “bike” numbers. As Tom Pike would well know.3. Paul Campbell also posts deliberately misleading comments, such as his one about not “owning” the camera. (Okay, that might not surprise many people here.)4. No one seems to be coming clean about the number of cyclists using C9. As noted above, I am interested in the facts of the data, the truth if you like, but that’s an absolute truth not a Meghan and Harry style “our truth” that seems to come from the London Borough of Hounslow Cycling Campaign. So, how many cyclists are actually using C9? Honestly? What is the average number per day over a year, say?
John Roberts ● 1346d