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The following is taken from the ICO document.What is the law if my CCTV captures images of people outside my own home and garden?If your CCTV captures images beyond your property boundary, such as your neighbours’ property or public streets and footpaths, then your use of the system is subject to the data protection laws.This does not mean you are breaking the law. But it does mean that, as the CCTV user, you are a data controller. So you will need to comply with your legal obligations under the data protection laws.You can still capture images, but you need to show you are doing it in ways that comply with the data protection laws and uphold the rights of the people whose images you are capturing.What must I do if I capture images of people outside my own home and garden?If you are capturing images beyond your property boundary, you should have a clear and justifiable reason for doing so. In particular, you will need to think why you need these images. If asked by an individual or the ICO, you will need to be able to explain your reasons, so you should write them down now. You should also write down why you think capturing the images is more important than invading the privacy of your neighbours and passers-by.You will also need to:Let people know you are using CCTV by putting up signs saying that recording is taking place, and why.Ensure you don’t capture more footage than you need to achieve your purpose in using the system.Ensure the security of the footage you capture – in other words, holding it securely and making sure nobody can watch it without good reason.Only keep the footage for as long as you need it – delete it regularly, and when it is no longer needed.Ensure the CCTV system is only operated in ways you intend and can’t be misused for other reasons. Anyone you share your property with, such as family members who could use the equipment, needs to know the importance of not misusing it.To me Michael, that comes across like a lot of "red tape" but that's just my opinion - you may hold a differing view and what we consider to be "red tape" is subjective.I don't have any evidence that the OP's neighbour isn't complying with the law. The OP may or may not. Given the requirements above though, I think it highly likely that the law isn't being complied with.

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Michael,There are indeed plenty of people whose back gardens are overlooked who accept the situation - absolutely, what legal recourse do they have to prevent this - none usually, and rightly so. However when people build extensions, the planning people do consider whether other people's privacy is significantly infringed on - as an example in my neighbourhood there have been plenty of extensions where an outside area has been created high up as part of the project, and the council have insisted on frosted glass rather than normal transparent glass so people sitting out on their new terraces can't directly see into other people's gardens (the thinking being that you are more likely to spend time sitting out on your terrace compared to sitting by an open window perhaps, so it's appropriate to mitigate against the increased loss of privacy).You asked what evidence I had of any law breaking - I answered I had none, but thought it likely to be occuring.I hadn't really gathered that the neighbouring premises seem to be commercial rather than residential, but now I've realised this, it makes it more likely that there are legal obligations that do need to be fulfilled.It sounds as if the CCTV installation is likely to be a security installation, and there really isn't much point in having CCTV unless you record the images, so there are legal aspects that have no connection with whether or not there is a nearby window that overlooks the garden.The organisation I work for had CCTV cameras, I think they were installed on public land (it may have been private land, I'm not sure), but regardless of that the public had unfettered access to a lot of the land that was covered by the CCTV cameras. All the cameras had information on the posts they were on as to who was operating the cameras, who the data controller was etc.I can understand a domestic installation being in breach of the law, and in most cases I can't imagine the police being too bothered about unintentional breaches, but a commercial installation should do better.Saying you could just install a screen is ridiculous. What if the camera is high up and to the south of the garden - should you have to install a screen that blocks out a lot of your sunlight to ensure your desire to have a bit of privacy?Is Arnie a 'difficult' neighbour - she doesn't sound like one to me, but I don't know her, so 'possibly'she could be, but I think you'd be in a minority of those reading and contributing to this thread who think that way.

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Arnie Devi suggested" No, You’re wrong. People like you are controlling & can not empathise with ordinary folk"When in fact of course irs preciselt the opposite. All I've done is make some observations about the situation which you clearly don't agree with, to be met with a string of abuse vilification and insults.Far from being being "ordinary folk" you clearly consider yourself something special, someone who's used to getting their own way and somebody who simply won't tolerate any disagreement from anyone.I on the other hand am indeed "ordinary." Not being born to wealth, influence or power I reconciled myself to the factearly on in life that it was unlikely I would ever be in a position to exert any real control over many aspects of my life. Had I been born with driving ambition  I might indeed have amassed great wealth as a succesful businessman but I wasnt so I didn't. And so I learned to accept that some things in life simply wouldn't be in my power to changeans so to accept them. Not to expext the world to dance to my tune" ordinary folk going about their business in the privacy of their own homes which they worked hard to get,"Again you appear to think that marks you out as someone special. You don't sem to realise the same applis toi almost everyone.Except unlike you, they/we are accepting of the fact that if you live in a crowded suburb of one of the largest cities in the world you simply can't expect the same stadard of privacy in your garden as you couldf enjoy if you owned a 400 acre estate in the country. Its always been a part of my philosophy in life not tospend to much time worring about thisgs I can't do anything about but devote my energoies to things that I can.Whreas your philosphy in life appears to be to shower peoplewith insults and vilification whenever you're unable to understand the point that they're makingThus" No one asked for your drivel Mickey step away from the keyboard "Its not drivel its well intended advice. Given that by your own admission you have no way of establishing whether the neighbour is ndeed breaking the law "there is nothing yiou can do". The sooner you reconcile yourself to that fact the better." You are suggesting somehow our family are involved in some sub context you are truly sick in the head."More unsubstantaited lies! When did I mention your family ? The *sub-context* is that you've insulted and vilified me on this thread for no other reason than I had the temerity to disagee with you. Leopoards don't change their spots.Which strongly suggests to me that reason you don't get on witn the neighbour - the sub-context is for exactly the same reason - when they diosagreed with you, rather than consider their point of view you became insulting    Anyway lets have some *factsquoteArnie Devithe people who have put up the CCTV are  not very nice people, running a very industrial style business more attuned to central London as opposed to the Garden suburbs of Chiswick. Arnie DeviWhen the premises once was a betting shop and two men with Sawnoff shotgun jumped into our garden I suppose yes it may have been helpful but they jumped right back out again when they saw our Alsatian and RottweilerunquoteSo that contrary to the impression people may have gained basically you're living next door to business premises of some kind. And to judge by your owm posts on this forum the area is popular with crackheadsAnd I'm led to believe many crackheads main source of income is crime. Doubtless much of it committed after dark.And yet given all this...quotePosted by: Arnie Devi Date/Time: 21/06/22 20:55:00 Good question why would they spend 8 grands worth on cctv  equipment? unquoteEr because their insurers insisted on it ?michael adams

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