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I was waiting to see when and what would be said about the stated reason for his suspension before commenting as it seemed as though people considered it to be irrelevant and not serious enough to be suspended for so there must be some other reason "conspiracy theory". I talked about the language of violence in our society and how it has a direct co relation with the levels of violence seen by different minority groups.  The Nazi's murdered millions including 6 million Jews it is therefore seen as anti-Semitic and morally wrong to refer to anyone Jewish as a Nazi.  The Taliban are a group of of people with a fanatical religious belief that have butchered their way across Afghanistan torturing and murdering women children disabled people, socialists and foreigners.  To refer to 3members of the Labour Party who favour cycling as a mode of transport for the good of the planet as the "Brentford Taliban" is also like my previous example is morally bankrupt and extremely stupid.  It is also fairly typical of Mr Giles in my experience.  If he was suspended for that reason then as far as I am concerned it is an improvement on the national party habit of ignoring blatant racism, sexism, homophobia and the demonization of the disabled.  There are many more terms Mr Giles could have used was he trying to be clever and not offensive he may have called them the Brentford Triangle, 3 on a bike, Fun bikes three, The forks in the road.  See it's easy to do and it's funny. But he chose to be unbelievably over the top offensive. I am sure Mr Giles is very angry that Angela Rayner referred to the PM as Scum as angry as I am about the dangerous things this government is doing.  However I will not be calling them the "Westminster Taliban"  Others may, but I will not.

Caroline Carney ● 1848d

For reference, this is what David said:“If the ‘Brentford Taliban’ tries this sort of nonsense in their own wards they will be confronted with ‘shock and awe’ by their own constituents. That’s why they are trying out their crazy schemes in Chiswick.”And this is what Caroline said:"The Taliban are a group .... that have butchered their way across Afghanistan torturing and murdering women children disabled people, socialists and foreigners.  To refer to 3members of the Labour Party who favour cycling as a mode of transport ... as the "Brentford Taliban" is ..... morally bankrupt and extremely stupid."Your argument is that both David and Caroline are using the term in exactly the same way - quoting someone else.  Thus, if it is OK for Caroline to say it, it must be OK for David too.Russell first used the term - he said other people were using it to describe the Labour group. Russell may have heard it on OneChiswick or made up the term himself and decided to use it in the form of "other people are saying" which is a fairly common trick to get a controversial point across while having a bit of deniability should you get criticised for using inflammatory language.David's use of quotation marks is similar - however, he not only borrowed Russell's term and directed it at the Labour councillors, he embellished it with militaristic language (which he also put in quotation marks despite Russell not having used that phrase) to reinforce the point.There is nothing there to suggest that this was not David's opinion.(If you are arguing on the basis of quoting a libel, then perhaps Caroline's (and my) usage might be considered libellous by repeating even if to discredit, but then David's usage would certainly be also.)

Ed Saper ● 1847d