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7 LTNs being removed in Ealing Borough

Well done to OneEaling or Onesies for this victory !!Fishers Lane next !

Maggie Dodge ● 1859d13 Comments

You perhaps missed that Fishers is being made permanent. It was approved at cabinet tonight. OneChiswick lost.

Edward Seaton ● 1859d

Never say never !!

Maggie Dodge ● 1859d

Since apparently it's a game, that's a resounding 7-1 then.

Bruce Hammal ● 1859d

Sadly I’d say it’s becoming a war.  The Council of course have all the weapons and control . It is therefore a measure of how wrong they are when we regain any our streets and we’re doing well. When they then close other roads, what’s the point they’re trying to make. The latest weapon is the 20k park-let. Otherwise known as a rubbish bin made of a series of wooden pallets. Someone is laughing all the way to the bank! Oh and where do they put them ? on the side of busy pollution filled roads. Why ? To take away parking spaces, pure and simple. Dirty tricks or pure evil

Maggie Dodge ● 1858d

On a positive note, we might have lost the battle for Fishers Lane (for now), but we are certainly winning the war in terms of getting our streets back to the way they should be.7 out of 9 LTN's removed in Ealing is a resounding success, not to mention many others being removed all over London. Looking at the bigger picture, this is certainly something to be very happy about, and worth celebrating in my book.

Mark Edwards ● 1858d

Boris Johnson says the world needs to 'grow up' and deal with climate change. "We still cling with parts of our minds to the infantile belief that the world was made for our gratification and pleasure," he said. "And we combine this narcissism with an assumption of our own immortality." "We believe that someone else will clear up the mess, because that is what someone else has always done," he added. "We trash our habitats, again and again, with the inductive reasoning that we've gotten away with it so far, and therefore, we'll get away with it again. "My friends, the adolescence of humanity is coming to an end and must come to an end."Or carry on like OneChiswick and the local vote scroungers by fighting for your right go drive a 1500kg machine half a mile. I’m bleak about humanity’s response to climate change. For many people the lack of an immediate existential threat to them means they don’t give a monkey’s.

Edward Seaton ● 1858d

Someone’s not happy .😂

Maggie Dodge ● 1858d

Boris Johnson - a man of words. Unfortunately not a man of his word.It's going to take more than a few LTNs and bicycle lanes in West London to tackle the scale of the trouble we're in. Anyone who doubts that is hopelessly deluded. Have a look at this. (Good use of bikes though!)https://youtu.be/mJzxaqws1xQ

Bruce Hammal ● 1858d

The balance of evidence suggest that closing Fishers Lane has increased emissions because the number of drivers discouraged from taking a trip has been more than outweighed by the extra journey time of those that have continued to travel. The notion that people who are not keen on this measure are somehow complacent about climate change is false in fact you could argue quite convincingly the opposite applies.

Mark Evans ● 1858d

"The notion that people who are not keen on this measure are somehow complacent about climate change is false in fact you could argue quite convincingly the opposite applies."I don't get the impression that the pro-car lobby are committed environmentalists who are concerned about air pollution or the climate.I do get the impression that there is a strong contingent of "climate dismissers" (or "complacent" as you suggest) and outright "climate deniers".  As an example, when traffic pollution issues are raised, China's use of coal is sometimes cited as a reason why it is pointless to restrict car use in the UK.The pro car lobby does deploy unconvincing arguments that they are concerned about pollution from their cars as justification for allowing them to rat run down minor residential roads and avoid diversions which might make their journey longer.  If they were so concerned about emissions, they wouldn't also be opposing the ULEZ."The balance of evidence suggest that closing Fishers Lane has increased emissions because the number of drivers discouraged from taking a trip has been more than outweighed by the extra journey time of those that have continued to travel."I don't believe your argument is actually about emissions (and electric cars would reduce those anyway), but it is about "extra journey time" - that's what people don't like.  That, and cyclists getting something at the expense of drivers which a few of the extremists are most up in arms about.The vast majority of cyclists are also drivers - some people choose to switch modes as appropriate and this new infrastructure encourages that. Cycling is zero emissions, safer for pedestrians and doesn't cause traffic jams.  If more people cycled more frequently on appropriate journeys your driving time would be reduced. 

Ed Saper ● 1858d

It the ‘it will take more than a few LTNs and bike lanes’ kind of attitude that makes me rather bleak about action on climate change. An individual’s contribution is going to make best to no difference to the global situation, so many individuals won’t bother. Driving a car one kilometer releases 200 grams of carbon dioxide into the air. It adds up.

Edward Seaton ● 1858d

Due to lockdown habits did change so majority of people do less driving now unless it's essential for business.

Janice Evans ● 1858d

China may have to go further with their changes but we could find that we have been overtaken.  The changes they've made have greatly reduced the emissions from vehicles..https://www.ies-synergy.com/en/electric-buses-where-are-weMany more people are now working from home and holding Zoom and Teams meeting so that has reduced more traffic.  Season tickets have already been altered to match changed work patterns. 

Philippa Bond ● 1858d