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No right turn into Duke Road from Bourne Place

A sign has gone up to this effect.How exactly am I supposed to get to my house on Glebe Street? Duke Road and Devonshire Road are closed to traffic southbound onto the glebe estate and we were left with just this Bourne Place access but now it looks like this further restriction has been put in place.What the hell is going on? How are we supposed to work with this? This is beyond a joke.

Martha Roberts ● 2153d11 Comments

The sign is facing in the wrong direction, and this was reported to Hounslow's traffic team 3 days ago.  It is meant to instruct drivers on Duke Road heading towards the High Road that when they get there they can only turn left, a restriction imposed for safety reasons in connection with the new cycleway.But it was installed wrongly so that it faces Bourne Place. In that position it can safely be ignored as there is no legal basis for banning a right turn into Duke Road.

Richard Jennings ● 2153d

Thank you Richard. You have saved me a heart attack.

Martha Roberts ● 2153d

Richard: I do hope you are correct, could you let the forum know the evidence on which you rely for stating the sign is wrong.  It would be helpful (which is of course why it will not happen) if LBH stated publicly that the sign was in the wrong place

Justin Stephenson ● 2152d

LBH has apologised and said they will turn the sign so that it is facing the right way.  Email to a Duke Rd resident who reported the faulty sign on FixmyStreet - "The site has been attended by the Highways Inspector to investigate the enquiry. Please note that a job number has been raised to realign the sign to the correct direction.  Apologies for the inconvenience this has caused."The sign should be facing up Duke Road to warn those approaching the CHRd junction that they may only turn left now at the end (always part of the original CS9 plan).  There's already a left turn arrow on the road by the Bourne Place junction to complement it.

Marie Power ● 2152d

"Richard: ... could you let the forum know the evidence on which you rely for stating the sign is wrong." Certainly, Justin.  The published plans for Cycleway 9, both the original and the current 'temporary' version, show no entry to Duke Road from CHR and left turn only for traffic joining CHR from Duke Road. Consequently Bourne Place provides an entry into Duke Road for southbound traffic.  I have been in touch with Mark Frost of LBH about ways to improve traffic flow at that junction, so I am confident that there is no Traffic Management Order that prevents a right turn into Duke Road from Bourne Place.  Without such a TMO there is no legal basis for the sign.Also, the errant sign (Diagram 609 "Vehicular traffic must turn ahead in the direction indicated by the arrow") refers to a junction ahead, and would therefore not be appropriate at the very end of Bourne Place.

Richard Jennings ● 2152d

Richard, just to let you know, that sign still hasn’t been turned around, as of this morning. A friend came to visit yesterday and turned left out of Bourne Place rather than right because of this sign then had to go round the houses down Dukes Avenue and back onto the A4 to enter the glebe estate from hogarth roundabout because of this.I understand what you say about it being erroneous but while it’s like it is it is confusing and concerning people. Any idea when Hounslow might do something about it and who I should contact before I get a stepladder and a spanner to do it myself?

Martha Roberts ● 2144d

Bonkers.  It’s now over a week since this was reported, inspected and agreed that it needed to be put right.  Reminds me of the joke about how many whatevers it takes to change a light bulb.  How many LBH operatives does it take to turn a sign through 90 degrees?

Marie Power ● 2144d

Who's got an old towel?....happy to throw it over and send Hounslow the bill ;-))

Nick Jenkins ● 2144d

I’m sure I can dig one out from somewhere.....

Martha Roberts ● 2144d

Up the ladder then girl with your towel!

Jennifer Selig ● 2144d

Maybe they’re leaving it like that so that when the cycle line is opened on Friday they can say, ‘this junction isn’t a problem at all - look how few cars are using it.’ Erm, what those cars that would like to use the junction but think it’s a no left turn from Bourne place because the bloody council can’t be bothered to rectify their error? Buffoons.Throw me a towel.

Martha Roberts ● 2143d