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Jayne, I'm not sure if you are referring to my post but I made the point that it is Hounslow council's definition, not mine.  I'm an opposition councillor - a Conservative - and have consistently spoken out against these ill-thought out and damaging schemes.  Ours is a Labour council - and has brought in these schemes.It's obvious that all these schemes is doing is displacing traffic - congestion and pollution - to other roads and driving residents to shop elsewhere.  You can see it.  I can see it.  Hounslow council is covering its eyes and currently sticking its fingers in its ears. Usually I receive extensive, bitter and angry criticism for speaking out against these schemes, and suggesting how local residents can make their views known, but perhaps you haven't seen any of my efforts. For clarity, we now have the petition, two consultations and another action is to write to the relevant Hounslow cabinet members and officers, as follows: Hounslow streetspace feedback: https://haveyoursay.hounslow.gov.uk/traffic-and-transport/streetspace-feedback/Hounslow consultation on the future of Chiswick town centre: https://chiswicktowncentre.commonplace.is Petition about the closure of Turnham Green Terrace and Fishers Lane: https://www.change.org/p/hounslow-and-ealing-councils-petition-against-closure-fishers-lane-and-turnham-green-terrace-in-chiswick-to-carsEmail addresses for people to write to - one email sent to all is fine:Cllr Hanif Khan, Hounslow cabinet member for transport, traffic and parking: hanif.khan@hounslow.gov.ukCllr Guy Lambert, Hounslow cabinet member for highways: guy.lambert@hounslow.gov.ukCllr Katherine Dunne, Hounslow cabinet member for communities and climate emergency: katherine.dunne@hounslow.gov.ukMark Frost, Hounslow transport officer: mark.frost@hounslow.gov.ukTraffic department (from which you should get a reply): traffic@hounslow.gov.ukand please copy your three ward councillors (Hounslow email format: firstname.lastname@hounslow.gov.uk and Ealing email format: firstname.lastname@ealing.gov.uk)I expect a TfL consultation on the new version of the cycle superhighway and will promote that, too.  I'm working as hard as I can.  Councillors don't get paid (we receive an allowance to cover costs and to acknowledge time spent and I reckon it works out as pence per hour).  I agree the schemes are madness and should be stopped.  I also think, as I always have, that we need better local cycling infrastructure - but these schemes do not even achieve that.  (Presses submit and waits for criticism ...)

Joanna Biddolph ● 2246d

Indeed, not every single bike rack was used. The ones outside the shop were no more empty/full than normal. But I love a bit of Ruth's hyperbole.A few things:The promised map of all area businesses was not provided by the Flower Market team. Interesting parking was provided - deemed required - at the primary school. Ironic access to it was via a rat run. I wonder how the folks on the Glebe Estate feel about this. For the team advocating for the removal of parking to provide parking (at a premium I might add) is curious as even they came to the realization their event needed it. So what, parking for their venture, just not those of local retailers? I'm confused.I imagine I was pretty much the first customer having bought some plants about 7:30 Sunday morning when things were quiet. Karen couldn't be bothered to thank me. She barely managed "hello." So I wondered if I should post on Trip Advisor that the staff was unappreciative and rude. Would people believe a negative review? Or would they shove it aside?Good morning, Tony.As for the crowd and distancing - no one can fault success. Try as Chiswick might. I get the discrepancy between large groups elsewhere being controlled and, perhaps, this one not being controlled to the degree it should have been. But I don't see this as the responsibility of the organizers. Sorry, but I don't. It is the council. The ones that granted the permit for the date/time specified. And I imagine the permit did not have to stipulate occupancy. No doubt it was extremely boiler plate. And the council can't find it's way out of a paper bag so it isn't able to add a stipulation to the boiler plate application form. If maximum occupancy was a requirement, I've no doubt the team would have somehow managed to comply. But I can tell you from experience, even that best effort can go awry when people can't find it in themselves to abide.Perhaps it should have been postponed. But the psychologic benefit of seeing such activity is immeasurable. Don't underestimate that. So to the team I will say thank you.

David Lesniak ● 2244d

Let me help Liza out on this one.I said "see Karen, even if we disagree we can still support one another."She looked at me upon arrival and said nothing. She looked at me walking past with my purchase and said hello. Nothing more. She was not busy at either time. Did I add a dose of sarcasm to make my point? Yes. Because in all the years we've been here, Karen has never spent a penny with us. And I believe she never will. We spent money on a window display to promote the market. Received no thanks. Spent money buying product. Received no thanks. Tony, on cue, points out it's okay to be ignored by the proprietor so long as the proprietor isn't me. So there's that. (FYI: shoulders intact, no spurs, no chips).Karen has said some pretty awful and vile things to us and others over the years. Sadly the rules of engagement have been set. Do I like them? No. But they never seem to change. Why is that? Thanks, Ruth, for criticising me for purchasing something prior to opening. What a daft thing to say. Ever operated a market stall? We have. For nearly 15 years. I can tell you unequivocally every single trader will sell you something no matter the time. Some might even sell you offspring if it helps them meet expenses. And yes, we take bookings. We're more than a cafe but thanks for noticing. Blinders off, love. You might also note even pubs are taking booking these days due to, what is now...oh yes, the pandemic.And lastly for Liza: You missed the part where I acknowledged and thanked the team. Not sure how. Maybe you were too angry. And yes, I pointed out the area map as discussed at the initial meeting did not materialize. It would help all businesses throughout Chiswick. Seems the right thing to do.Otherwise, Liza, I guess the garden we donated and maintained for the past decade is worthless to you. Duly noted. We'll remove it post haste so as not to offend. But ask yourself this: do you think your animosity toward us encourages other businesses to follow suit with similar initiatives, or do you think it scares them off? Which would be better for the community?Personally I think the time has come to change the rhetoric and collaborate rather than antagonize. But in the meanwhile, clearly I'm happy to keep receiving the vitriol. If there is one thing hospitality has taught me, it's not to suffer fools.

David Lesniak ● 2244d

Andrew, you do recall correctly. However, and bear in mind, Paul Campbell's numerous condemnation posts of car drivers and that we should get onto bikes plus his posts of today exalting the joys of delivering flowers by bike with a side swipe about cars, is it not perhaps a tad hypocritical that he still owns and drives a car and that he doesn't entirely practice what he preaches ?Personally, I firmly believe in the freedom of choice and don't try and evangelise about any form of transport. I'm firstly, by a country mile, a pedestrian and secondly a driver for solely health and practical reasons. All of which I've said before on several occasions on this Forum. The recent closures of roads in Chiswick have made it difficult for myself and many others who like me are old with underlying health conditions to carry on using shops on Devonshire Road and TGT which we've used for decades for fear of getting an expensive Penalty Notice. I walk to Chiswick Pets but cannot walk with heavy dry cleaning to Top Hat etc etc etc. Yet the likes of Messrs Campbell, Pike and Smart continue to evangelise about cycling, and especially Ms Mayorcas, show zero empathy and don't just extol the virtues of cycling for everyone, but actually persistently post links to cycle shops who provide bikes for the Disabled - unbelievable ! In fact Ruth Mayorcas actually posted on the Forum a massive lie, that she saw me walking 'robustly' on Turnham Green - I haven't walked robustly for some 7 years.I thank you for your comment, but perhaps remember there's two sides to everything which I hope I've provided in this instance.Regards Loraine Pemberton

Loraine Pemberton ● 2244d

Tom, its interesting you follow my posts so avidly. Like others, I remain very concerned that when life and traffic normalises we will see real problems. Based on the appalling traffic we have all known for years. As someone whose livelihood depends on ease of travel this concerns me a lot.I am happy to admit that traffic levels are still very low around W4, do you dispute that? I dont need London wide aggregate data from a increasingly irrelevant data provider to know this. Traffic was light today, less than last week for some reason. I also had to drive back from Ealing early evening and took a longer route to see the reality. A4 to Chiswick roundabout pretty quiet, as was the roundabout. Normal blackspot of the High Road westbound to the roundabout was astonishingly quiet, even with the closure of Wellesley/ Stile Hall. A 20 yard queue that a 'normal' evening can extend almost a mile back to Acton Lane. Very short queue down Sutton Court to the A4,  modest queues into town on A4 and none outbound. I am sure as anyone who actually lives and travels around the area can attest, this is far far below normal. As I posted before, I think its partly reduced activity at Heathrow, that generates a huge amount of A4 traffic. Its also the commuters, for whom M4/ A4 is the most convenient route to West End and other areas. I know other areas are far busier, the north circular from Ealing is terrible. But we seem to be lucky. I am far from the only person concerned that these schemes are being implemented and trialed during such low traffic periods. No football or rugby, no commuters, no theatres and cinemas, few diners, few accidents or roadworks etc. We know what that produces and its ugly.There is a broader point related to the aggregate data, we are seeing a change in the nature of journeys. Far fewer trips in and out of London, far more local and around London. Hence, north circular very busy, A4 quiet. Which then concerns me why a superhighway is being forced through Chiswick to facilitate arterial trips in and out of London that may be permanently reduced.

Paul Green ● 2244d