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Secure infrastructure needs time

Berlin reports rise in fatalities as new bike lanes fail to keep cyclists safehttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/24/berlin-reports-rise-in-fatalities-as-new-bike-lanes-fail-to-keep-cyclists-safePerhaps cyclist who blindly pedal up the hill should stop and think. Maybe even on red lights.

Adam Pycz ● 2259d9 Comments

They should also think about having lights front and back on their bikes (it is illegal isn't it not to) and taking out insurance (I believe that the cycling associations are good for this) because there was a case last year or ear before I think where the cyclist didn't counter claim and this caused him problems.

Philippa Bond ● 2259d

"Berlin reports rise in fatalities as new bike lanes fail to keep cyclists safe"Reworded: 'Berlin reports rise in fatalities as vehicle drivers fail to keep cyclists safe'

Ken Munn ● 2259d

Why, were drivers mowing cyclists down in the cycle lanes?

Claire Moran ● 2259d

Having read the article a number of the incidents were at cycle lanes crossing road junctions.Something we are about to find out in Chiswick before too long.

Adrian Irving ● 2259d

Speeding up the cycling traffic, doesn’t make it safer!"Berlin’s senator for transport, Regine Günther, told the local newspaper Der Tagesspiegel that her government would prioritise equipping junctions with segregated traffic-light sequences for cyclists and automobiles"

Steve Taylor ● 2259d

I love how Ken thinks a cyclist is absolutely never responsible for his/her own actions.

David Lesniak ● 2259d

So you don't think that it should be similar to being on a river where steam/motor gives way to sail (well almost always - which in itself could be the problem because lots of people don't seem to know the rules)?

Philippa Bond ● 2258d

"I love how Ken thinks a cyclist is absolutely never responsible for his/her own actions."I love how Ken thinks he can rename the Headline of an article just because it doesn't suit his agenda. More proof of the arrogance of some cyclists.

Steve Taylor ● 2258d

"which in itself could be the problem because lots of people don't seem to know the rules"Indeed, they do not, Philippa. That remains true of all vehicle operators and road users regardless of transport choice.When I was a kid, Drivers Education was mandatory. It doesn't matter if you go on to get a driving license or not. You must learn the rules of the road. As far as I'm aware, this is not the case in the UK. It should be. To learn how the road operates you learn how to anticipate others behavior on shared infrastructure. This seems especially warranted now that all manner of vehicles are flooding the roadways and dare I say pavements. To insist only one sub-group is responsible is to miss the point entirely: you are responsible for your behavior and your choices. You cannot hide behind ignorance forever. And I'm mystified how any initiative to improve safety avoids the obvious bit about education. Without the lessons, the practical is pointless. Why should anyone be responsible for what, in some cases, is sheer stupidity on the part of another?

David Lesniak ● 2258d