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Thanks Jim. Agree with you re info.  We need clear info from our Councils because that is who is responsible for our home kerbside collection. LBH if you find the right website info page and click through links is clear.  LBE nothing now on presentation.  Lids still drive me nuts - and it appears that it is lids and crushed lids which are still causing problems.  Just looking at the grass in the park it is specled with discarded lids - which the mower will then shred. So it depends on how I'm feeling on the day (the polite explanation) with recycling.  Packaging needs id on it but many won't or just show the swoosh thingy that shows they have paid something to someone to dispose of it/provide a disposal facility.  Most people don't recognise it - or without checking their Council's collection think they should recycle it in that.  Then there is the recycling symbol which just shows that a few Councils recycle it, which gets updated to the one where many Councils recycle it when the facilities are available to do so.  Depending on market forces for everything can cause problems.  It gives manufacturers time to faff around and avoid the issue.  Producer responsibility desperately needed followed by more and more producer responsibility. Inspiration always needed for reuse uses before recycling and also when recycled. Love the things made out of childrens' ver bright wellies and also phone cases.  EfW is better than landfill but should remain very last option.Avoiding and refusing can save a lot of hassle but not always appropriate.  I don't want strawberries in a brown paper bag like I bought to take home for supper as a naive teenager at Berwick Street market in my lunch hour.  It's good that shops now use reusable crates etc and avoid the tremendous waste they had there.  Look forward to being able to use more take your own container shops.Plastics are particularly difficult as there are so many.  Only a few types are recycled into new plastic packaging for food as the quality has to be so high.  Take a look at the bottom of a fruit or veg punnet for interest to see if it says R-PET!  We have been recycling stretchy polythene at the bigger supermarkets like Sainsbury's and Morrisons together with the few plastic carriers that invade our household for many years.It is all the sorting of which we do very little in comparison to what happens later that costs.  Both amazing machinery and amazing people are involved.Googled M & S plastics and got there.  So they do have plans despite the lack of a Plan B!  There is some hope then.

Philippa Bond ● 2283d