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i understand people's concerns about covid-19 amidst the protests, but i feel like a lot of people on this forum have a certain level of privilege that blinds them from how important this is. i attended the protest on Wednesday. i made a choice, that i was willing to risk the health of myself and my family (who supported me) for a cause this great. i am white and i believe it is my duty as a white person to use my white privilege to support the black lives matter movement. coronavirus will come and go and every life lost is a tragedy and vastly the fault of the govt, but black people have been subject to institutional racism, police brutality and murder on the basis of their skin colour for centuries. the protest isn't just about George Floyd, it is about ending police brutality everywhere, including the UK because if you think the UK police isn't systemically racist your privilege blinds you. i've seen countless videos of police violence toward black people and protesters in the UK, this isn't just about america. we need massive police reform. and FYI, almost every single protester was wearing masks and socially distancing as much as they could. can't you see what this says about how big the problem is? that people know the risks of protesting but are still willing to do so because of how important this is? especially as we all know BAME people are disproportionately affected by corona. i will never stop protesting against racism and police brutality because it is a reality faces by millions every single day around the globe. and please do not assume the police are not retaliating to peaceful protest with violence. this is LITERALLY what we are protesting against. i condemn the minority who are turning violent but i can understand their anger. please remember they are a SMALL minority. this breaking of social distancing rules is for a good cause that outweighs its cons, it isn't a packed beach or drive to barnard castle. this is a fight for justice.

Alicia Hine ● 2340d

"Many of us only become aware of the levels of institutional racism in this country when we're faced with unpalatable phenomena, such as street protests"I'm going to go out on a limb and assume those posting on this thread are white. I think the degree of frustration and anger amongst the black community has been buried for far too long and what we're seeing is these emotions erupting to the surface. Dare I say with grace. To focus on looting, aggressive behavior and flouting current distancing is to miss the point. And it is an effort to keep the issues and "them" at a distance. The fact people are demonstrating against those odds tells you everything about the need to do so.For the women I ask how many times have you been asked to take it on the chin in terms of your pay and ability to rise through the ranks constantly being stymied? And yet that persists. How many times have you had to try and ignore unwanted advances? And yet that persists. Often being told you brought it on yourself. For how long must it persist before you snap? Can you snap? Should  you snap? Will you snap? Should you be asked to wait longer until you snap? Snap when its convenient for others?That is what is happening now. Any threat from the virus is second to the rage finally being released.I present as a white male which I imagine gets me through more situations than I could count. But when I present as a gay male (whatever that should mean) the situation can change on a dime. And it has done just that in Chiswick more times than I care to remember. But I've known that reality my entire life. You get used to navigating, bobbing, weaving, avoiding, confronting, ignoring. But then you reach a point where enough is enough.Clearly, that point is now.To say that all lives matter at a time like this only devalues the moment for the community most enraged who deserve anything and everything they may want. Rhetoric isn't the prize. Screen time isn't the prize. Being an agenda item isn't the prize. Simple decency, kindness and equality is the goal. Imagine having to have that as a goal in the first place when you've enjoyed them all your life. And you've never had to think about having enjoyed them. Because you've never had to live without them. So you can't understand why anyone would be so upset in the first place. It is a horrible cycle. And I think that cycle just exploded.And to think at the moment all that is being requested is the spotlight. To be heard. When really all that should be given is immediate and unmitigated equality.

David Lesniak ● 2340d

Of course you can connect the two. I admire your confidence that the difference in Covid mortality rates is down to genetics. But isn't your insistence on a genetic origin founded in your concern to avoid any suggestion that BAME people, or more specifically blacks, are generally considered as second-class citizens, have lower incomes, lower educational attainment and poorer access to health services?

Do you know how many white people have died in police custody since 1969? I don't, but I can tell you that in the 15 years to 2018/19 white deaths in custody were 43 per million people, and black were 72 per million. There is an even greater racial disparity in other aspects of policing: according to 2018/19 statistics, blacks were eight times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites; the police were five times more likely to use force against blacks than against whites; eleven times more likely to deploy firearms (but not necessarily fire them), eight times more likely to use batons, six times more likely to use handcuffs, and twice as likely to detain under the Mental Health Act. Thank goodness we're a long way behind the USA in police treatment of blacks, but we've still a hell of a long way to go.

As for yesterday's demo, there's no way I would have participated in it, but we shouldn't be too quick to condemn the protest, either because of the actions of a small unruly minority or bceause of failure to observe social distancing. At least the vast majority of people used masks, which is in stark contract to the majority of people in Chiswick.  

Robert Fish ● 2340d