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"The results of testing come from all different sources, if this is all you can say about our excellent Government  ...............😴"From a doctor in today's 'Observer':'The more I hear Conservative MPs applaud and fawn over NHS staff, the more I think back to the footage from 2017 of those same MPs in the Commons cheering as they voted down a proper pay rise for nurses. Ellwood was among them, alongside Rishi Sunak, Dominic Raab, Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson.The true measure of how much others esteem you resides fundamentally in their action, not words. All this rousing talk of heroes, medals, memorials and fly-pasts increasingly feels like a clever and calculated distraction. The worth of nurses is so self-evident to this government, for instance, that they are routinely compelled to use foodbanks. And Hancock may have offered Britain's 1.5 million carers a badge recently, yet two thirds of them are paid the minimum wage, with many on zero hours contracts. How convenient that now, with the spotlight on their vital work, their poverty wages are being augmented by lavish ministerial clapping. Most iniquitous of all, of course, is the government's willingness to laud us as heroes even while watching us die without proper personal protective equipment. How dare they? Testimony from staff forced to wear bin bags, Marigolds and even sanitary towels as facial protection should shame every members of the cabinet. The irony surely isn't lost on Johnson that the one thing Hollywood scriptwriters reliably award their superheroes is, at least, a mask and cape?............The dehumanising narrative of healthcare as heroism benefits political leaders, by deflecting attention from their dismal failure to keep staff from avoidable harm. We will never stop striving to keep our patients safe -  but we are not, like cheap rhetoric, disposable.'

Vanessa Smith ● 2376d

'I personally find some people's blind allegiance to Johnson and his merry band a real puzzle'I think this is Vanessa's main point and I agree with it.  I would add that I don't agree with Sam's point that she is doing the same as those she is criticising.  This would only be the case if she had a habit of defending the Labour party regardless of the facts and I am fairly sure she has not been guilty of that.There also seems to be a commonly held assumption that the situation of conservative supporters and their critics are the same and that the same sort of behaviour should be expected of both.  We are in a situation where the conservatives are in power with a massive majority and so supporters of the government have no need to fight their corner relentlessly.  The election is over.  You won handsomely.  You can afford to be a bit self-critical.  Think about 'noblesse oblige'.  It would actually gain you some respect.  The fact that the testing target wasn't exactly achieved could easily be conceded without loss of face, but none of you seem willing to do that.  Conversely, the Labour party is in a dire situation so it is natural that they should be fighting their corner tooth and nail.  Some fire is only to be expected, so cut Vanessa some slack!Finally, another common, but mistaken assumption seems to be that to criticise the government's performance is somehow inappropriate because they are 'doing their best in a difficult situation' and that criticism is somehow undermining their best efforts.  But just because they are well-intentioned doesn't mean that their decisions have always been the right ones.Happy debating.Al

Alastair Banton ● 2374d

It’s so tempting to let this go - and then I can’t. Janice said (among other things): “You don't like me praising the party I voted for, well I'm entitled to my opinion.” All well and good. Some of us voted for Blair but then balked at an illegal war. On principle. That aside ... I ask Janice to give consideration to the voices of those working in the NHS, who know that they don’t  have enough PPE of sufficient quality to get them through the day (ie protect them from dying) despite Government claims to the contrary. I know who I believe. That is nothing to do with party loyalty, admirable though it is. Why, oh why would the NHS say they are terrified of going to work if they thought the govt was doing their best?  Why would the MoJ issue a directive to coroners that no deaths of NHS workers should mention possibly faulty or inadequate PPE? We all know this is “unprecedented”. It was, however, predicted and our govt spent years ignoring those warnings while, at the same time, drastically reducing the NHS. We also had the opportunity to watch and learn from other countries. We and the NHS have been badly let down by our government and we should say so. NHS staff are putting their lives at risk every long shift and they are dying. That’s terrifying. Janice: it is so far from too soon to tell. We must tell it now. Not to be disloyal to any party allegiances but because we are in the midst of an ill-managed tragedy that is costing lives. This is not a challenge to power. Your party of choice is not going to go out of power any time soon. They have a huge majority. But that does not mean that should not be called out every now and then. And - if not now, when?

Beryl Wall ● 2374d