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Trump is right !

It grates to agree with him but what he's just said about a lab in Wuhan is right.Julian and myself have been following two guys on youtube who lived in China for 10-14 years ,serpentza and laowhy86,who talked about this  at least a month ago.They are live  online now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6oIZe3w6E&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=EbfrY7zgjlBoGMSi%3A6

Ben Gemmingen ● 2379d36 Comments

FFS. God in Heaven. How dim can you be to swallow all this

Claire Moran ● 2379d

It was an accident in a lab ,not a conspiracy.A spilt vial of virus by scientists studying the wet markets.A cock-up.The female scientist who was directly involved has been disappeared,possibly murdered, but there is no evidence of any intentional Chinese state intent to use it as a weapon,only that they(the CCP) knew how deadly it could be so to save face have clamped down within China and silenced anyone who knew what had happened .

Ben Gemmingen ● 2379d

There has been talk about this recently but no proof and no name given of the missing female scientist as far as I know.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

If this is the conclusion reached by both you and Prof J. Pavey then, clearly, this is what happened.. 😂😂😂

Michael Brown ● 2379d

Keep up at the back there Michael.This woman was the second whistleblower.I watch yours,you watch mine ,deal ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beDmuDDknNI

Ben Gemmingen ● 2379d

Does she have a name Ben, if not then how can we believe this.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

Yes she does ,her name is or was Dr Ai Fen.

Ben Gemmingen ● 2379d

Thanks, now do we know if she did exist, or will wait to hear more, just noticed the time, night.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

Huang Yanling is allso still missing from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.One or two of the links are refusing connection when i tried 10 mins ago.I Did post a video on here over a month ago but this is a detailed report picked up by nationalreview whoever they are on the video and findings i put up on herehttps://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/South China news reporting on what the authorities sayhttps://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050872/chinese-research-lab-denies-rumours-links-first-coronavirusIts a lot to take in overall from the start to now

Julian Pavey ● 2379d

There is,isn't there.Yes,her.The first whistleblower and the first to disappear,least about this.Her photo was airbrushed out of the university's year book.I think there have been many more since then.There was an accident,that's all, which she alerted the authorities about .She did the right thing ,poor woman. I think it was laowhy86 who first did an in depth report on her.

Ben Gemmingen ● 2379d

There was something early about it coming from a Chinese lab on here.

Philippa Bond ● 2379d

And thus it begins. Brown's constant proselytism has finally been rewarded with two acolytes in the form of BG and JP (though I am surprised at the latter).There is no proof, only conspiracy theory compounded by Donald Trump's conjecture (contradicted by Mike Pence's statement).

Jeffrey Cope ● 2379d

look at the date 1st of apri..................oh sorry 1st of may.i must have missed March and April!!!!!!!!!!

James Smith-Jones ● 2379d

But you can't put it back in the bottle.  Accidents happen but there doesn't have to be accident for there to be a problem.  The trick is to be prepared and ready and able to do something about it.  The NHS has been scaled back so far that there wasn't and isn't the capacity and flexibility to deal with this suddenly.  It appears that the reorganisation and privatisation of NHS Supply Services seems to have caused problems that are endangering lives.  Instead of lowering standards of equipment necessary to make more but not good enough supplies available and tests that can send recovering but still ill people back to work we need good enough PPE because of the shortage of staff.  We now have people all over the country making faceshields and scrubs.

Philippa Bond ● 2379d

Why has the W4 forum become a magnet for disinformation from these people?Rather than some ridiculous roundabout way of praising Trump, why not look into the disgusting conditions animals are kept?

Basil Finnis ● 2379d

"It appears that the reorganisation and privatisation of NHS Supply Services seems to have caused problems that are endangering lives." .... and where is your evidence for this Philippa?

Cllr Sam Hearn ● 2379d

Or why we are having such difficulty dealing with it!

Philippa Bond ● 2379d

Julian, interesting but think we should wait it's to early to be delving into complicated issues concerning the Virus although would like to know what happen to her.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

Can I just put on record that this is not a conspiracy but something that was reported by someone that possibly needs to be noted for ref? Trump is claiming he has evidence,i guarantee this evidence is what i posted. I have no problem with what was posted because it seems to be a fact.  What i don't claim is the idea it came from this lab or was man-made like trump is, but has to be noted along with when the state government actually knew about this virus What i do know is the CCP close down any talk or chat be it labs, names and god know what else in Chinese life in mainland China. We have open freedom to post unlike in china where WeChat and Baidu are controlled so is hard to keep ahead of what is reported by the people. At the end of the day, the issue is key workers are missing with names and photos.  Please can those people missing or friends and family possibly step forward? For censorship https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51732042

Julian Pavey ● 2379d

Julian, it's complicated and dangerous ground, it's also casting blame with no proof.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

Oh yes, again for the recordMB talks rubbish and Trump is an arse and needs to be removed as quick as possible

Julian Pavey ● 2379d

Have never rubbished Trump and don't intend to, just tread carefully.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

It's early days, would need more evidence myself.

Janice Evans ● 2379d

Ben, I just watched the video. Yes, all possible.

Michael Brown ● 2379d

A video of more than 1 hour and forty minutes is way more than I have the time or patience for, and I’m pretty sure that most would agree with me so it would have been helpful to have had a short concise summary of the exact claims being made and preferably under a less provocative title.  But I did watch a little of it and the claim that China is something of a racist police state which censors the press and forbids and punishes critical voices is hardly controversial.  I have visited China and saw evidence of this, though I was a little surprised when my tour guide said loud and clear in the centre of Tiananmen Square that in her opinion Mao Tse Tung was a criminal.

Alastair Banton ● 2378d

Whether covid 19 originated from a Wuhan wet market or a laboratory, China's Xi Jinping's subsequent actions and motivations require international investigation.Knowing the origin and devastating effects of coronavirus he immediately halted internal flights out of Wuhan and nearby provinces, but allowed external flights to the major cities of the world for two months.The Chinese informatants of this information, needless to say have disappeared.In mitigation China has liberally distributed testing kits worldwide.

Denis Fox ● 2378d

Let's hope the testing kits are better than the 250 ventilators they sent which had to be scrapped because they were unusable - the doctors receiving them said that, even if they got them to operate, they were too dangerous for the patients. 

Micki Hawkes ● 2378d

M/s Hawkes, I would have mentioned the faulty testing machines, but didn't wish to further my indictment of the Chinese regime.

Denis Fox ● 2378d

Hope we will continue to manufacture here after this pandemic ends.

Janice Evans ● 2378d

Trump is busy thrashing around to deflect attention from his lack of action in preparing and dealing with this virus despite the warning that it was coming.

Philippa Bond ● 2378d

I am not prone to conspiracy theories of any kind but this video by laowhy86 is very plausible.Both he and his friend serpentza have been reporting on all aspects of China and the CCP for a long time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU

Ben Gemmingen ● 2378d

Brazil did not look in a good place from the news last night. Think that will become more prominent over the coming weeks

Julian Pavey ● 2378d

Well if they also both go missing ??? Could be onto something.

Janice Evans ● 2378d

There is another view, were the missing innocent or guilty ?

Janice Evans ● 2378d

To me saying 'Trump is right' about anything is a bit like me saying I've got Fairies at the bottom of my garden.

Vanessa Smith ● 2378d

Agreed, and I don't know either way whether there is any truth in this and would rule nothing in or out. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day as they say,and time will tell (npi).

Keith Iddon ● 2378d