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Second phase of Coronavirus already planned

“I believe we are coming now to the end of the first phase of this conflict”, announced bungling Boris, today.

Michael Brown ● 2382d19 Comments

It must be most depressing to hear the evil subtext in everything that anyone says.

Chris Blackwell ● 2382d

"Depressing"?I'd say he gets off on it, what with his always being right and the rest of us wrong.Personally I could almost wish he gets a nasty-but-not-fatal dose of the virus himself, except that that would only put some more NHS workers at risk.Oh well.

Richard Cathcart ● 2382d

I'm still trying to tie in the mysterious energy weapons used to torch California and to blast the twin towers with the current need for 'they' to make use of 5G. Doesn't add up, super sophisticated energy weapon tech for years now but 'they' had to wait for the world to invent 5G. And what happened to the previous deployment of mind control method of vapour trails? Was that simply a dumb idea 'they' had that did not work out? 'They' are really quite useless.

Alan Clark ● 2382d

Bojo could be referring to the next outbreak, or the follow-up to the current outbreak i.e. contact tracing and other forms of tracking, social distancing rules, drugs, vaccines etc. Either way, he's following a script - all planned in advance, and it's clear that they don't want this to end anytime soon.

Michael Brown ● 2382d

Yes but instead of assuming it's The New World Order' turning us all in to Cybermen could it not just be a nasty virus that spreads via human contact and the best way of stopping it is to not go out?And if the aim is to kill small business then why have the Govt announced today that they will be providing 100% State backed loans for small businesses?

Chris Blackwell ● 2382d

Being in debt won’t be good for businesses, for those that are still around. Let’s wait and see if businesses are adversely affected or not.

Michael Brown ● 2382d

Plus what’s happened to the British ‘bulldog’ spirit, whereby nothing fazes us, never-mind defeat us; then a virus comes along, which still hasn’t killed as many people as what died from flu in the 2014/15 flu season (despite chalking up as many deaths to CV as they can), and we throw the towel in – forget about jobs, economy, friends, family etc. –  just bolt the door and hide away for months.  They keep telling us that case and death numbers need to keep coming down but, really, lockdown should be eased (if there’s any benefit of lockdown) to the extent where numbers stay relatively constant to help avoid the total collapse of the economy. The NHS is managing fine – I don’t think any of those new ‘photo op’ hospitals are even being used. There is plenty of leeway, and we don’t have time to stare at graphs watching the line get lower and lower until it touches base. Are they going to wait until just 1 person has CV before we’re allowed out to view the ghost towns? They WANT the collapse of the economy and all other nasty things they can milk out of ‘the virus’. Wake up you fools..

Michael Brown ● 2382d

Looking at ONS data for deaths in 2014/2015 flu season, for the FOUR months from December 2014 to March 2015 there were 44000 excess deaths compared with the 5 year average for those months. These 44000 'excess' deaths were 2.5 times the number in the previous year which according to the ONS was a record low number of 'excess' deaths. I may be misinterpreting this, but that suggests that a particularly aggressive flu outbreak caused an excess of less than 26400 flu related deaths over FOUR months, compared to the excess of flu related deaths resulting from a 'benign' flu outbreak. In the last 30 days there have been around 20000 deaths that have been flagged as connected to COVID19 and this figure for one month is around 75% of the 26400 figure above.

Andrew Jones ● 2382d

Andrew, it's pointless providing figures to Michael Brown. He completely refuses to understand that the reason the number of deaths from CV-19 is comparatively low is BECAUSE of the lockdown. He utterly fails to understand what might have happened had we carried on as normal because this doesn't fit in with his World Order nonsense.Best to humour him, wind him up a bit and watch him go. It's something to do on a rainy afternoon after all!

Chris Blackwell ● 2381d

I think the Flu mortality figure for 2014/15 is 28,330.Looking at ONS stats for this year, figures for weeks 1 to 12 are similar to average; then in weeks 13, 14, 15 & 16 there is an increase in deaths above the average of 1,011, 6,082, 7,996 and 11,854 respectively; however, only 539, 3,475, 6,213 and 8,578, respectively, of the registered deaths relate to mortalities where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, which means there was an increase above average in these weeks, where COVID-19 was not mentioned on the death certificate, of 472, 2,607, 1,783 and 3,096, respectively – a total of 7,958.Road deaths should be down as a result of lockdown to help keep the figure down, but additional non-COVID-19 death numbers are soaring.Chris, you can have a go at writing some music on a rainy day like this – maybe a bit of backing music for an advert; but keep at it and you can still make it to the top. It’s hurting but it’s just not working

Michael Brown ● 2381d

"I think the Flu mortality figure for 2014/15 is 28,330.""then a virus comes along, which still hasn’t killed as many people as what died from flu in the 2014/15 flu season."I think the essence of the second statement might still be true (compared to your figure of 28330), but even if it is (we don't know how many of the deaths in Care Homes are due to COVID19 but haven't been recorded as such), it won't be for much longer. Whether your figures in the first statement are correct or not I don't know, but the flu season lasts a lot longer than the 4-6 weeks that it took for the number of COVID19 deaths to surpass your Flu mortality figure for 2014/2015. As you know significantly more people died as a result of flu in the 2014/2015 flu season, than in any of the other seasons in the last 10 years (see)https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25andhttps://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/excesswintermortalityinenglandandwales/2015to2016provisionaland2014to2015final#respiratory-diseases-caused-most-excess-winter-deathsIt looks like you're correct that the additional deaths where there is no mention of COVID19 are significantly higher than normal in weeks 13-16, and some of those probably wouldn't have occurred without the lock down, but the vastly larger number of COVID19 infections without lock down would have resulted in far more eventual COVID19 deaths and increased the non-COVID19 deaths arising from the medical services being unable to cope with the demand on them, so I don't accept what I think you're trying to imply, namely that the non-COVID19 deaths (above the average) would have been lower if there was no lock down.Road Deaths are insignificant as far as these figures go - the average is 4-5 a day I think.I have to say I would far rather listen to the music that Chris has composed and the recordings he has contributed to than listening to the things you make up, but each to his own.

Andrew Jones ● 2381d

Then listen to Chris' music and don't read what I have to say, you fool.

Michael Brown ● 2381d

Michael.Do you really believe this nonsense?I suggest you stop reading The National Enquirer, take your tin foil hat off and turn your internet off for a while.Have a nice day.Enjoy the sun, listen to the birds.

Paul Lang ● 2381d

Michael are you saying Bojo is aware of the second phase, or unaware and being controlled, what exactly do you think is happening.

Janice Evans ● 2381d

Janice, don't encourage him, or he will be telling us all about PANDEMIC XP next.

Richard Greenhough ● 2380d

Julian Pavey ● 2380d

If this is true, I despair. I have been self isolating since the end of March. If I have to go through another 12 weeks then I really don’t know what to do. I have some lovely neighbours who get me my shopping and my prescriptions but I’m really struggling being indoors so much.

Pippa Meldrum ● 2380d

Hi Pippa, you seem to be a newcomer to ChiswiickW4, so welcome.  One great thing about this forum is that there are many friendly and helpful people here, so I hope posting here will provide you with some respite from the tedium of self isolation.  Stay safe.  Al

Alastair Banton ● 2380d

On a positive note at least this time round our local conspiracy theories don't include accusations that the government is using rubber dummies.Small mercies I suppose....

Matthew Swain ● 2380d