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Jacqueline Lynch ● 2384d70 Comments

Here's an interview with the guy for this who could not open it on the previous link.Whose pocketing £££££'s whilst this lockdown could be catastrophic.https://youtu.be/yZLWoaxDGMU

Jacqueline Lynch ● 2384d

More conspiracy bull. The comforting thing about believing in conspiracy theories must be that at least someone is in charge organising the master plan. Unfortunately the reality is that humanity is floating on a sea of random events.  Our only protection is our power of logical reasoning and advances in science, technology and medicine etc.  Of course we don’t always get things right in the short term but slowly we progress. Having said that we’re all doomed in the long run as there’s too many of us and we’ll probably destroy the planet eventually.

Michael David Rowe ● 2384d

Frightening:

Michael Brown ● 2384d

Write to your MP. I am.

Michael Brown ● 2384d

Using your best green ink?

Viv Griffiths ● 2383d

Suggest you check out the background of Zed Phoenix, formerly Ben Fellows. A scammer who makes money out of coning gullible fools. It would serve him right if Bill Gates sued him for defamation.

Robert Fish ● 2383d

or even conning them!

Robert Fish ● 2383d

This crass conspiracy crap is not simply distracting tosh. It obfuscates real issues. This one claims the whole pandemic is a fake event to bolster Bill Gates' fortune. That is blatantly rubbish but it takes attention away from who is making money at this time - hedge funds creamed it by hedging on the stock exchange as it fell through the floor. The uber-rich get richer, then take their private jets to hide away in remote places, then pay for virus tests for them and their staff while hospitals can't get enough test kits. And we get to go on public transport and clap thanks to the NHS. We should be demanding that tax-avoiding millionaires pay more tax. Bring on a wealth tax, and stop this distracting conspiracy rubbish.

Alan Clark ● 2383d

I actually listened to this carefully and took notes.  As with many of such items it wasn’t complete bull.  But what is wrong is that it is all underpinned by a number of very dubious paranoid assumptions regarding people’s motivations and the existence of imaginary corrupt networks.  I think this will be very obvious to most people so I’ll say no more.  If the so-called ‘research’ went just a little bit deeper many of the claims would unravel.What I would agree with, though, is that funding of organisations such as the W.H.O. should depend on the wealth of billionaires like Bill Gates.  This is completely wrong.  To me this represents a failure of governments in allowing massive and ever increasing inequality to take place rather than taxing fairly and redirecting this wealth for the benefit of the majority.  Unfortunately such ideas are anathema to the alt right who love the discord that these ‘conspiracy’ sites generate.

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

To get the super-rich to pay tax you'd have to choke off the tax havens like Guernsey.  I doubt if this is possible and even if it were they'd find an alternative way to hoard.  Why they bother when they are so rich anyway is a mystery, it must be some sort of illness!

Viv Griffiths ● 2383d

Makes for a bit of reading amusement while we're hold-up during this Corvid-19 lockdown. Lovely late April weather isn't there? So annoying the cemeteries are closed - at least to one's usual corporeal inclination of a balmy weekend to amble around reading notations on marble and granite tablets that suggest wholesale family demise from a previous pandemic. Cow parsley and bluebells will be well up, surely, and butterflies flitting in warm dappled sun spots in a certain municipality's unkempt last haven to be frequented? I suppose one could adventure out guiltily and surreptitiously climb over the wall with a short ladder for the purpose.

Bobbie Carnegie ● 2383d

Viv, where there’s a (political) will there’s a way. Votes for women, the downfall of the Soviet Union, Civil Rights, equal marriage, the end of slavery.  History shows many examples of positive change that seemed difficult or impossible before they were eventually achieved.  I see no reason to believe that the plague of super-rich tax avoidance need be an exception.

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

Sadly with corvid 19 and Brexit I don't see it being addressed anytime soon.

Viv Griffiths ● 2383d

You may be right, Viv, and we are in unknown territory but the deprivations that Covid 19 and Brexit are certain to cause could be just the spur to lead to a demand for the kind of radical action that I hope for.  Who else should pay but those who can most afford it?  I can’t see austerity 2 having much appeal for the upcoming generation of voters.

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

Alastair, the New World Order won't be the utopian world that Macron describes, or what you hope for; not for you or I, anyway. The model is China, so best come out of your dream-world now and take action.

Michael Brown ● 2383d

Michael, you are not a prophet and you have no authority or credibility to accuse me or anyone else of being in a dream world.

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

BANT-6492C, I  could say the same about your claims made about me, but we just have to put up with it on a public forum. You should be enjoying these benefits of a free society as it finally draws to a close.

Michael Brown ● 2383d

Bant 6492c ?

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

AB > "Bant 6492c ?"BANT-6492C is your identity as assigned by the NWO.Yours,WHIT-4618X

John Whitworth ● 2383d

... on the basis of some elementary googling.Well two can play at that game.This idiot makes great play of the fact that Gates gave $1bn to GSK. As of Friday, GSK was worth $106bn i.e. even after the market declines this year.Does anyone really think that a giant corporation like GSK could be "bought" for a (relatively) trifling sum like that?Or might it just be that Gates, who has a long record of donating to causes which fight a number of mortal diseases all over the world, has gone to one of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies to help in this field? Considering he's been doing that for years, I think it the more likely conclusion, as eg this report from 2011 illustrates:"A vaccine invented at drug giant GlaxoSmithKline and funded in part by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation cut the rate of malaria infection in small children roughly in half, providing real hope of cutting the toll from a mosquito-borne disease that infects 250 million people a year and kills 800,000 children annually in sub-Saharan Africa.The results, from a study of 6,000 children between the ages of 5 and 17 months of age, were published today in the New England Journal of Medicine to coincide with a forum on fighting malaria now occurring in Seattle."https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/10/18/glaxosmithkline-bill-gates-backed-vaccine-cuts-malaria-infections-by-half/The vaccine was approved by European regulators in 2015 and has since proven effective in preventing malaria in between 25-50% of infants and young children.Of course, that Forbes article brought Gates into it in order to attract readers. But if you look further into the background to RTS,S, it has a history which long predates his involvement:"The RTS,S vaccine was conceived of and created in the late 1980s by scientists working at SmithKline Beecham Biologicals (now GlaxoSmithKline Vaccines) laboratories in Belgium. The vaccine was further developed through a collaboration between GSK and the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and has been funded in part by the PATH Malaria Vaccine Initiative and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."

Richard Cathcart ● 2383d

In MB's dystopic world there's no incentive to philanthropy. The more money you donate the greater the probability that the conspiracy nuts will accuse you of corruption.

Robert Fish ● 2383d

The plan is to relate the lockdown exit to the introduction of the vaccine pulled out of thin air; and with average UK daily death rates being in the region of 1,850, they can pretty much attribute any number of deaths to CV to fit in with their plans - the greatest fraud in history. Write to your MP, and do anything else you think might help save your freedoms from the clutches of the cabal. Do your bit. BROW-TRUTH1

Michael Brown ● 2383d

MB > "BROW-TRUTH1"That is a malformed NWO control identifier.The correct format is: XXXX-9999X

John Whitworth ● 2383d

Can we have some details of how all of this will unfold please? I think I get the big picture: subdued & corralled population, effectively slave labour; uber rich elite playing this population like a board game; doubtless some form of mind numbing TV or drugs or all of the above to keep the masses distracted. I get all that.But what we need is more information on the steps between now and then:What exactly will this pretend vaccine do to me and you? Memory loss? Cognitive function loss? Hair loss? How will these impairments benefit the uber rich? When do I lose my well paid (but not uber paid) job?And some details on life afterwards:What are the dumb, distracted people actually doing day to day? How does this removal of high value, but not super high value, work (accountants, lawyers, media, finance, etc.) which make up our middle class work in practice? Do they all take a pay cut? How does the uber rich get their additional money from this? How is it so much more than before? What is the model (details please)?And who is the 'cabal'? It originally was just 5 people (hence the word). Who is in now? Was it always the same families, passed down from generation to generation?These are my immediate questions. I'm sure others have more. We want to understand and believe. Help us.

Alan Clark ● 2383d

I want to know where 'the tanks in the streets' Michael promised five weeks ago have got to.  I keep a look out but nothing so far.  Isn't he reliable in his predictions?

Viv Griffiths ● 2383d

Good question. When do the tanks appear? With the vaccine? Maybe the vaccine is distributed from the tanks...And how does the presence of tanks link to the cabal? Are the cabal largely made up of senior army officers? Are they actually the uber rich? Who knew...

Alan Clark ● 2383d

I have a Colonel godson.  I'll view him with more suspicion in future.  Who knew....

Viv Griffiths ● 2383d

I can’t provide the finer detail, Alan, but you’ve finally grasped the bigger picture, which is most important. You'll be able to join the dots as we go along. The ‘cabal’ consider themselves to be superior beings in every way and get angered by such ‘silly’ things as religion hence they represent the anti-Christ. Their beliefs lie more in ‘light’; they’ve definitely got a thing about light, but that’s all I know. The plan has always been to take total control and enslave humanity, and it goes back hundreds of years, stemming from Mystery Babylon; and now they have the technology to exercise their dream. They believe that the sheeple are so stupid, they deserve it, and who can argue with them…

Michael Brown ● 2383d

MB > "Their beliefs lie more in ‘light’; they’ve definitely got a thing about light, but that’s all I know."Lucifer... Lord Of Light...

John Whitworth ● 2383d

I’m disappointed. You seem so informed. Why can’t you even pop in a few details? Why can’t you answer my questions. They are reasonable. But your comments on the cabal are welcome. You say they think themselves superior. But are they actually superior? Do you mean that their self perception is warped? Or do you mean that they are actually superior (greater intelligence, stronger, taller, etc)?  So they like light? That’s strange as light is normally a metaphor for exposing hidden things. So this hidden cabal likes the clean, exposing and revealing light? That does not make any sense. Please explain. And while you are explaining, I need to understand how this cabal have existed since Babylon (what’s that, 2,500 years) but been rankly unsuccessful in all that time. But still hung in there. How does that work? And how does tech help rather than inhibit them?

Alan Clark ● 2383d

Well said RC. We do not want to dragged back to the Middle Ages.

Steven Trembath ● 2383d

Can we trace Bill Gates’ antecedents back to Babylon? But my main idea is that all of this total world slavery means the Cabal will have a lot of work on their hands: so much less time for the luxury yachts to swan around the tropical islands. They had that anyway, so why bother to fix what was working well?

Vivienne Cox ● 2383d

Illuminati – yes, they are intelligent, they are the illumed, but they have no compassion for others. They get as many of their puppets into powerful positions and bribe/pull the strings of others in powerful positions, and almost certainly threaten (worldwide). Take our Tory government, for example, who won the last general election, winning on the promise of building a new post Brexit Britain, a strong economy, a great future for business and workers etc. and I’m sure they meant it; but less than 5 months later, the economy has been destroyed beyond repair, the population imprisoned and facing enslavement for the rest of their lives – because some dying OAPs (largely) fell victim to a bit of flu? No, but that’s the power of the illumed.

Michael Brown ● 2383d

'a great future for business and workers', the Tories? Now I know you're completely mad.

Basil Finnis ● 2383d

Corona UpdateUk:    +413Sweden: +2

Michael Brown ● 2383d

So, our Tory Government. Are they bribing them or pulling strings? Johnson doesn’t exactly look in a great position, even if you think he wasn’t ill when in hospital. A country falling into an abyss, a partner about to give birth, colleagues who have been jostling for position in his absence. Much more work than he’s used to, and he seemed to have enough cash before this all started.

Vivienne Cox ● 2383d

4/5 weeks into lockdown and another 4,463 new UK CV cases registered, today. How did 4,463 people get infected if lockdown works? It simply doesn’t, and non-lockdown countries don’t get anywhere near such figures. Sorry to be so obviously right all the time; I know it pisses some of you off.

Michael Brown ● 2383d

So 20,000 CV dead in the UK (most of whom were practically dead, anyway) of the 66m population.Now what about the health and futures of the remaining 65,980,000 who have been locked up for over a month?

Michael Brown ● 2383d

His name is Baphomet:

Michael Brown ● 2383d

MB > "His name is Baphomet:"That's "Mister Baphomet" to you, puny earthling!

John Whitworth ● 2383d

Illuminati – one is called Baphomet? How many others? Where do they come from? How long have they been around? How come someone knows what they look like but yet they are unknown and hidden? Where do they hide? Have they a secret base? How come they are waiting for 5G technology? Don't they have their own cleverer tech? If not, why not? And if not, how come they have gained such power?They get their puppets into powerful positions. Who? Who qualifies as a puppet? What's the selection process that determines you're a puppet or your are going to be bribed? Are all people in powerful positions puppets? That is a lot of puppets.How come with all these puppets no-one has made this more public? What are our journalists doing?

Alan Clark ● 2383d

CBOY-1984T, if only you'd been more open to the possibilities when there was time instead of acting like a complete know-all.

Michael Brown ● 2383d

Sorry, am I not being clear? I want you to back up your claims with some details. I want you to provide answers to my questions. Otherwise we will all know that your claims are just meanderings of an empty mind.

Alan Clark ● 2383d

Brown seems to have been reading too much Dan Brown and Dennis Wheatley.  The reality is rather different.  These followers seem to be a group of secularists and free-speech advocates, about as far removed as Brown's concept of the NWO as can be imagined.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/08/17/a-satanic-idols-3-year-journey-to-the-arkansas-capitol-building/

Alastair Banton ● 2383d

The French government, led by Alastair’s hero, Macron, has called upon cult organisations, Google and Apple, to remove privacy protections from mobile phones in order to enable a Sovereign European ‘Health’ Solution to track the movements of citizens!And fellow cult organisation, Facebook, has warned that it will take action against any users that post coronavirus claims that are at odds with the World ‘Health’ Organisation’s version of events. Action will also be taken against any users who ‘LIKE’ such posts!

Michael Brown ● 2382d

Just as well they'll only have to monitor 14 billion mobile phones worldwide then.

Viv Griffiths ● 2382d

More bo**ocks.  Based I suppose on your earlier claim that Macron was a supporter of THE new world order which I then questioned and you quickly admitted only actually meant A new world order.  Okay, say what you like about Macron but leave me out of it because the truth is I know little about him and care less.But much more importantly please answer Alan’s very interesting questions which you have been evading.

Alastair Banton ● 2382d

Typical tactics: ignore hard questions and start a new issue. Brown once again shows that he has not thought through the guff that he reads in wayward web sites. He swallows this rubbish without question. Dismal, pathetic and the actions of an empty mind. Please put some flesh on the brittle sticks of your wild claims. If this illuminati are so clever and powerful why is it taking them so long to gain domination? Are they actually quite shite at their job?

Alan Clark ● 2382d

UK Column provides us with an update. It includes Boris’s latest corona speech, where he says:“I believe we are coming now to the end of the first phase” !!!He’s obviously been told about the next phase, at least…

Michael Brown ● 2382d

So you are unable to answer my questions? No surprises there. You spout all sorts of rubbish but actually you haven't even thought to examine its credibility. Because you know there is no credibility to your notions.

Alan Clark ● 2382d

Guys, guys, you're wasting your time trying to challenge Brown, for he's long since shown that he's completely imprevious to reason.Though you might re-direct your efforts towards the OP - another one whose medication seems to have worn off (I don't hold out any hope with her, mind). Meanwhile, back to Baphet. Is he any relation tom the Baphets of Isleworth? I know an old boy who thinks he might have gone to school with a couple of them. They were in the Sixth Sixth Sixth Form together.

Richard Cathcart ● 2382d

This Bamphomat chappie, whose rendition was so kndly shared earlier, may well be related to that Isleworth family. I'm sure these illuminated have been around for donkey's years. Trying and failing to take over the world. It must have cost them a fortune in bribery to keep their millions of subjects in line. And so many missed opportunities over the centuries to finally subjugate us humans. I mean they could not have done a worse job if they tried.

Alan Clark ● 2382d

Don't worryThe usual suspects will be coming back in the next 3 years as they have for the last 3 still asking questions, and then asking why one does not answer my question, and then the reason why you won't answer my question, and then finally, why you can't answer my question.The fact of the matter is the few suspects, you know who will keep on persisting because they absolutely genuinely love it. Either that or they are blooming bored of life. Get a grip men,grab something more interesting and more pleasurable for your daily life of lockdown than reading and replying to MBs postings.toodle-oo

Julian Pavey ● 2382d

Well that is one perspective. Another might be that Brown is a fool who peddles dangerous guff. Such promoting of bad ideas should not go unchallenged or uncorrected.

Alan Clark ● 2382d

Exactly. Michael Brown needs to be challenged for spouting nonsense because there are gullible idiots who will believe it. Disinformation can be very dangerous as in the rise of hospital admissions in the US after Trump mused on the possibility of injecting disinfectant.

Chris Blackwell ● 2381d

Vaccine and money obsessive, Bill Gates, who has long been predicting a worldwide coronavirus outbreak, is the co-Chair of the World Economic Forum, who ran an exercise (Event 201) for a worldwide coronavirus pandemic in mid-October 2019. The whole pandemic scenario was played out – how the world would need to react, and the need to shut down ‘false’ information. Six weeks later, the exercise ‘went live’ in Wuhan. Gates has thrown $millions at the World Health Organisation, pharmaceutical companies, Imperial College, Chris Whitty etc. and we’re all ready to go. In this short interview, Gates can barely contain his excitement at the developing corona vaccine programme:   

Michael Brown ● 2381d

Gates calls this PANDEMIC 1 and refers to PANDEMIC 2Remember WINDOWS 1, WINDOWS 2 etc.?This monster needs to be stopped, and soon.

Michael Brown ● 2381d

It's true, you are a bit of a monster but there doesn't seem to be any way to stop you.

Viv Griffiths ● 2381d

Trouble is, Gates has got everyone involved with this, and the various health and vaccine organisations, in his pocket. Gates wasn’t a kid from an average background; his father was mates with the Rockefellers, and anyone who's done any research will know that the elite are Satanists. Prepare for the worst.

Michael Brown ● 2381d

And who would call a virus that is spreading in a rare and destructive manner – PANDEMIC 1 ??

Michael Brown ● 2381d

Its when he gets to PANDEMIC 95 and PANDEMIC Millennium (Me) that you need to be really worried ! And then there's PANDEMIC Vista, not that the views are very good during lockdown....Why don't you just keep it local and concentrate on the Sontaran takeover of Hounslow ?

Richard Greenhough ● 2381d

Why have you not answered my question about who "they" are? You clearly know who. You have cited two - a Rockerfeller and a Gates. Who else?I still await any info on my previous questions.

Alan Clark ● 2381d

So Care Homes now account for 1/3 of all corona deaths. Clearly, their permanent lock-in hasn't helped them one iota; all whilst non-Covid deaths soar as a result of the lock-up.

Michael Brown ● 2381d

That's right. The staff can't come in or out. Nor can deliveries be made.Idiot.

Alan Clark ● 2381d

Ahh, poor Clarky boy - not coping with the evidence very well at all.

Michael Brown ● 2381d

Answer my questions please. Or perhaps you would prefer to admit that all your theories are false. Answer.

Alan Clark ● 2381d

Michael.Do you really believe this nonsense?I suggest you stop reading The National Enquirer, take your tin foil hat off and turn your internet off for a while.Have a nice day.Enjoy the sun, listen to the birds.

Paul Lang ● 2381d

He loves the notion that there is a world conspiracy. He gets his kicks from reading on dodgy (and often alt-right) websites that promote this guff. But he doesn't question any of it. He doesn't try to analyse or think through this rubbish. He just copies and pastes 'for our benefit' - or rather his self promotion. But when you ask probing questions about this stuff ... nothing. It is truly pathetic.

Alan Clark ● 2381d

UK Column updates us with the latest information:

Michael Brown ● 2380d

Here we go. Anti-vaccination misinformation. Surprise surprise. Luckily while it’s you pushing anti-vax rubbish people will think it must be twaddle. After all you claim that “they” are using it for world domination. Which is beyond laughable. Who are “they”? Where do they live; in a hollowed our volcano? Why are they so pants at this domination gig? They’ve had decades or maybe centuries to get it sorted? How come they are so cunning and yet so dismal?We need convincing answers before anyone worries about vivid-19 vaccinations. Help your cause, provide details.

Alan Clark ● 2380d