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How to persuade someone to stay at home under current lockdown.

An acquaintance has been boasting about driving round various beauty spots in the Lake District with his wife  under the current lockdown rules. He has been Taking photos and marvelling at the empty scenery. Whilst I do believe he didn’t come into contact with anyone and endanger them. I cannot for the life of me understand why he thinks he can flout the guidelines. Trying to word a suitably drafted message. Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Sean Wales ● 2404d111 Comments

You could ask him how he would have avoided contact with others if he'd been involved in an accident.

Ken Munn ● 2404d

Ask them this:If you were called tomorrow and told that you had tested positive for COVID-19, then asked to list all the places you had been and all the people you had been in contact with for the last 14 days.Would you be proud of yourself or embarrassed by your actions?

Paul Scullion ● 2404d

Make public who they are and where they live.

Jerome O'Brien ● 2404d

He says he contacted no one.  I did mention the accident scenario. He laughed it off he is more of an acquaintance than friend but I am so incensed about this not the first time he has been for a jolly. Don’t know exactly where he is so can’t name and shame.

Sean Wales ● 2404d

Stuff it, call 101 and report them.
I know it sounds Draconian but it is the irresponsible actions of such people that could lead to restrictions being extended for all of us.

N V Brooks ● 2404d

Just to add to the picture, what is his age and how far does he travel to get to get to the LD ?

Andrew Craig ● 2404d

I’m not sure naming and shaming would be particularly constructive and certainly publishing where they live could lead to all sorts of problems.Do they have children who might be able to help and explain the dangers of their behaviour?

Stewart Jones ● 2404d

What if the car breaks down and no one will help how will they get home.

Janice Evans ● 2404d

Who stayed at home during the 2014/15 flu season when over 28,000 people died in the UK of flu?The shutdown/lockdown has nothing to do with COVID-19.

Michael Brown ● 2404d

Have you told Bojo ?

Janice Evans ● 2404d

Michael there is nothing wrong with thinking outside the "box", but theSpeed with which this is spreading do think we should stay home as awful as it is, children are dying as well as all ages now.

Janice Evans ● 2404d

Totally agree with you NV

Richard Kay ● 2404d

Apart from the virus there is a long standing petition to stop drivers from ruining the Lake District.www.savethelakedistrict.com

Rima Jones ● 2404d

Luckily, I managed to persuade myself to leave my home this afternoon and catch the tide to Richmond. I took a few pics to help cheer you all up, including one of the Bell & Crown – doesn’t look too bad:

Michael Brown ● 2403d

Michael - perhaps you should send a letter to Boris Johnson reminding him not to worry as he probably only has flu and that this is nothing to do with Covid-19. I'm sure he must have forgotten and this would certainly cheer him up. While you're at it you could volunteer your services as medical advisor since your extensive knowledge could be put to much better use than hanging around in kayaks.Could you send me a copy of the letter too please as I would like to post it through my neighbour's door, you know, the widow of the guy that died of CV-19 last Monday, the same widow who will be returning to her home this week after spending a 10 days in an ICU with CV-19. I'm sure it would be a huge relief to her knowing that it was just the flu that killed her husband and not some new virulent strain of virus that nobody knows how to deal with or how to manage.

Chris Blackwell ● 2402d

Chris, sorry to hear about your neighbours.Bell & Crown: What I didn't realise is that the original features have been kept, which can be seen through the windows of the extension. It doesn't look nearly as bad as I was expecting, plus times and needs change so, taking everything into account, I think it's acceptable.

Michael Brown ● 2402d

"Walk away from anything or anyone who takes away anything from your joy.Life is too short to put up with fools"

James Smith-Jones ● 2402d

Good to see your priorities Michael, one line to Chris about the death of a neighbour of his, and five lines about the Bell & Crown. You are so screwed up.

Andrew Jones ● 2402d

Sorry too, Chris, on behalf of Andrew Jones.

Michael Brown ● 2402d

Thank you for posting that Michael. Andrew

Andrew Jones ● 2402d

Chris sorry about your friend and I know how you must feel as I have lost a very good friend and then you get  a couple of idiots on here making light of the situation, pathetic, sick individuals who have no moral compass because bringing down others makes them feel better.  I wish you and your family well.

James Smith-Jones ● 2402d

This bloke Michael Brown- does anyone actually know him? Has anyone ever seen him face to face?He's surely just a wind-up, isn't he?How is it that, out of all the people on this forum, he's the only one who seems to know wht's going on?Some of his stuff just seems to be in appalling bad taste apart from being arrant nonsense.Can you post a pic Michael so we can all see you and if you do exist we can avoid you in the street.Tell me something, do you ever laugh? Do you ever take a minute off from recognising the world's problems in a way that nobody else can? Is it a massive responsiblity hat weighs so heavily on your shoulders that you have no time for the things that other people do?

John C Seymour ● 2401d

Yes, he does exist, John.He is not an idiot.He laughs a lot.H is very good  company indeed.And I suppose that now makes me Public Enemy No 2 after Michael.

Roger Talbot ● 2401d

I real fail to understand why people continue to react / converse with the evil Brown. What's Brown and floats in the Thames?  Surely something to be avoided like effluent??!!

Steve Taylor ● 2401d

It was lovely out on the river, today. I got some good exercise, absorbed a load of vitamin D, and really built up my immune system. A very high tide:-

Michael Brown ● 2400d

It seems that you chose not to heed the strong recommendation from the PLA in Notice to Mariners No. 6 of 2020 which says:"To reduce social contact, travel and potential strain on emergency services, we strongly recommend that all recreation and leisure activities on the tidal Thames are avoided until further notice."Chiswick Pier Canoe Club claim on their website that "ALL PADDLING IS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED DUE TO COVID-19"So why were you on the river today?

Richard Jennings ● 2400d

To legally take my daily exercise as an independent paddler in a particularly well isolated and lovely environment. Good for both body and mind. I spoke to the RNLI guys from a distance who expressed no concern about my presence.

Michael Brown ● 2400d

Who are ‘they’ Abigail?

Georgina Flint ● 2400d

Presumably the 'someone' of the OP.

Susan Kelly ● 2400d

I know, why don't we have a competition for the best name for Mickey Browns canoe. I am going to go for "conspiraturd"

James Smith-Jones ● 2400d

“ Who are ‘they’ Abigail?”I presume the RNLI guys who didn’t challenge the fool for not adhering to government instructions although I find that hard to believe. I would suggest that seeing some RNLI guys was just another figment of Brown’s warped imagination.

Steve Taylor ● 2400d

Maybe the RNLI are aliens from outer space and actually drown people

James Smith-Jones ● 2400d

Get out, exercise and get as much air and sun to remain mentally & physically healthy and keep the immune system in good working order.Save lives. Protect the NHS.

Michael Brown ● 2400d

It seems that no-one wants to join you in your childish name-calling competitiion, so you win Mr Smith-Jones.Until, that is, Stuart Kerr comes along to deliver a prize prize you weren't expecting.

Roger Talbot ● 2399d

Hi there Roger,I actually saw it earlier and sighed...Then decided his post was so utterly crass - so pathetically childish – so completely misplaced, that on this occasion he could be relied upon to successfully hang himself on his own idiotic rope...Michael would have thought exactly the same...

Stuart Kerr ● 2399d

Chiswick RNLI are asking for donations. If you'd like to contribute a couple of bob, please go to their Facebook page: Chiswick RNLIhttps://www.facebook.com/142396122442753/posts/3414026945279638/

Michael Brown ● 2399d

What was the sign they were holding Michael.

Janice Evans ● 2399d

Warning of the fast incoming (Spring) tides of late; the walkers/joggers route is getting cut off and people are getting marooned on the island more than usual. They fixed it to the railings beside the footpath at the back Fullers.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Thanks.

Janice Evans ● 2399d

Now that he knows they're not aliens who drown people, Mr Smith-Jones will no doubt wish to be the first with a donation, Michael.

Roger Talbot ● 2399d

He is, after all, holed below the  waterline and must have a sinking feeling.

Roger Talbot ● 2399d

Ah long time no see Rodger the Todger, you want to gang up with the other forum dullards, that' s fine by me, looking forward to your banter.

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

Just a mater of interest, why does Dickhead Brown think he is above the law and can go play with himself on the Thames while the rest of us follow the rules of remaining indoors?

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

Presumably Richard, because he was an independent paddler and not paddling as part of the Chiswick Pier Canoe Club? The Chiswick Pier Canoe Club have clearly stopped all Club paddling due to Covid-19.Seems obvious really. 

Angela Knight ● 2399d

Ah as if by magic, my stalker is back, hi Stuey Boy, just can't leave me alone can you. why don't you go and play with your 20 imaginary fwends boy.

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

Oh poor little Rodger, not allowed to play, what a shame.

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

Michael Brown ● 2399d

If you had any self-awareness, you silly boy, you'd know that I've already played you hook,line and sinker to show you up as the malignant virus that you are.

Roger Talbot ● 2399d

LockdownUK: Cases:    70,272    Deaths:  8,958      (12.7%)Italy: Cases: 147,557    Deaths:  18,849    (12.7%)Spain: Cases: 157,053    Deaths:  15,970    (10.1%)France: Cases: 117,749  Deaths:  12,210    (10.3%)No LockdownSouth Korea: Cases: 10,450  Deaths: 208    (2%)Japan: Cases:          5,530  Deaths:  99    (1.7%)Partial-LockdownGermany: Cases: 119,624  Deaths:  2,607    (2.1%)

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Partial LockdownUSA:  Cases: 488,589  Deaths:  17,984  (3.6%)No LockdownBelarus: Cases: 1,981  Deaths:  19  (0.09%)

Michael Brown ● 2399d

For Balance:LockdownAustralia: Cases:    6,203          Deaths:    53    (0.8%)New Zealand: Cases:  1,283      Deaths:    2    (0.15%)It’s clear to me that total lockdown makes little or no difference - completely unnecessary. All is required is to isolate those most at risk, and not willingly destroy the country socially and economically, from which it will never come back. Health will go too. Total disaster – except for the elite, of course, who planned this.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

That makes interesting reading

Georgina Flint ● 2399d

But what are people going to do about it – nationally and local? Almost every reader of this forum will be a victim of the government’s RESPONSE to ‘COVID-19’, and in a very big way. Let’s start with the tossers of this forum who only criticise me for warning of the dangers. James, you can go first..

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Please explain how you played me little todger

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

please oh please Dick Brown, bore off with you pathetic conspiracies, no one gives a flying fook about what you have to say and while you at it get some photography lessons.

James Smith-Jones ● 2399d

LockdownBelgium: Cases: 26,667  Deaths:    3,019  (11.3%)Partial LockdownTurkey:  Cases: 47,029  Deaths:    1,006  (2.1%)

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Michael — number of cases is not comparable from country to country because number of tests varies greatly.
More tests equals more cases revealed. Fewer tests equals fewer cases revealed — the actual number of cases must be much greater in those cases.
Your percentages are meaningless.
 

Les Fletcher ● 2399d

It's all meaningless - that's my point.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

We’re having all these figures thrown at us all day every day to justify a lockdown and the destruction of the economy, and it’s all a load of BS. Most people were old, dying, knackered out, anyway. All we had to do was be sensible; but no, total destruction.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Given the average time from infection to death for those poor souls unfortunate enough to succumb to the virus, it wouldn’t be surprising to find  you sometimes get lower % death rates where the number of confirmed infected is low. Maybe Michael you could post up the corresponding figures for Sweden when you get the chance? They have bucked the trend with implementing lock downs according to the media.

Andrew Jones ● 2399d

No LockdownSweden:  Cases:  9,685  Deaths:    870  (9%)

Michael Brown ● 2399d

Michaels figures are meaningless for so many reasons.  1. Because the number of tests taken influences the known cases and therefore the percentages are erratic, 2. The virus hit different countries at different times so some are ahead of others by several weeks and 3. This is an ongoing situation and the reality will only be known with hindsight (at the moment it's a bit like assessing an omelette halfway through cooking).

Viv Griffiths ● 2399d

No it's not.  The NHS can only cope with a certain number of cases at any given time.  Let them handle the cases that exist now and hold off more by locking down. By not locking down the surge in cases would overwhelm the NHS so, obviously, there would be a huge number of deaths. After the first lockdown ease it and the NHS will be better placed to handle a second wave of patients.

Viv Griffiths ● 2399d

If you're selective about what you quote, you can usually find statistics to support your point of view Michael ... (I realise these figures may be out of date by now)No LockdownSweden:  Cases:  9,685  Deaths:    870  (9%)Partial-LockdownGermany: Cases: 119,624  Deaths:  2,607    (2.1%)

Andrew Jones ● 2399d

I've provided a broad range of figures. You, on the other hand, have been very selective.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

In answer to the original question, perhaps tell them that if they don't comply, they will get home visits from Michael Brown, Steve Taylor and James Smith-Jones once the lockdown ends. That should do the trick !;-)

Richard Greenhough ● 2399d

Even with your selective example, you’ve illustrated that there are more than ten times more cases in Germany than there are in Sweden; however, I don’t read too much into that. My point is that I’ve yet to see any evidence that supports the justification for an indiscriminate lockdown and economic shutdown. Such action is certainly not being supported by any figures being presented. Of course, we’ll always be told that things would have been much, much worse blah blah…  things will be much worse for this decision tho.

Michael Brown ● 2399d

I hope you don't find the evidence ... will it take 100's of thousands of people dying for you to accept that a lock down is the lesser of two evils? And yes I was being selective in giving the figures for the most high profile european country that isn't implementing much of a lock down, rather than that beacon of liberty, Belarus.

Andrew Jones ● 2398d

Thats kind of feels like Margaret thatcher and Janet Street-Porter paying a with Pam Ayres stuck in the middle.😮

Julian Pavey ● 2398d

Here's a broader range of figures Michael. I've added the countries that border Sweden, or are connected to Sweden by a bridge (Denmark). Probably a more meaningful comparison than Korea/Japan as all these countries are in Europe, but of course there are undoubtedly different approaches to testing (and hence the number of confirmed cases won't be the same percentage of total people infected within the population), population distributions will be different.All I'm really trying to point out is that you picked certain countries to illustrate your belief that putting countries into lock down is part of some hidden plan only known to a small cabal somewhere, and doesn't actually have any beneficial effect on reducing quoted reported deaths from COVID19. Of course I fully expect you to come up with some explanation as to why you're right and how there's no evidence lock down works.    No LockdownSweden:  Cases:  10,151  Deaths:    887  (8.7%)LockdownDenmark:  Cases:  5,996  Deaths:    260  (4.3%)Norway:  Cases:  6,360  Deaths:    114  (1.8%)Finland:  Cases:  2,905  Deaths:    49  (1.7%)Partial-LockdownGermany: Cases: 122,627  Deaths:  2,710    (2.1%)

Andrew Jones ● 2398d

The alternative would be Dickie Brown, Dickie Greenthrash, Rodger the Todger and Stuey Boy otherwise known as the forum dickheads.

James Smith-Jones ● 2398d

Poor Jimmy Jimmy.

Richard Greenhough ● 2398d

National Medical Director of NHS England, Stephen Powis, said in today’s BS Corona update that, from a medical and scientific point of view, months & months will be needed to make any progress in respect of ‘COVID-19’. Then Secretary of State, Priti Patel, was asked how the country stood regarding lockdown and the economy, and she said that the government will base their decisions on the medical advice! Goodbye economy, industry, jobs and social life. Hello mass unemployment, State control, poverty, poor health and early death.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

No I didn't but you've missed out all the countries with high disease rates that ARE under lockdown. You need to put forward a case that shows that any benefits of a longterm lockdown outweigh the dire negatives; and, so far, you haven't.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

Also, there are far less countries with no lockdown so there are less examples to illustrate, but where there are examples, the figures are no higher – much less in many cases; but we’re being told that we must be under a longterm lockdown to get the virus under control. If the government could point to one non-lockdown country to show us just how bad things would get without lockdown, they would, but they can’t so don’t even mention it.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

They talk more about vaccines in the BS Corona update than they do peoples’ jobs, freedoms and futures. Wake up, you fools.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

Buy a Taser.

Martyn Newstead ● 2398d

Sounds like you will only accept that lock down works if you are given an example of a country where they refuse to implement lock down once they realise how bad the situation will get without it - fortunately no one in a position of authority has yet proved to be that stupid, so of course there aren't examples to give.New Zealand put a strict lock down in place very early on, and 10 days after they got to 600 confirmed cases (with 1 death), they had 1015 confirmed cases (with still just 1 death) and also the daily increase in cases was lower later on.In contrast, 10 days after the UK had around 600 confirmed cases (594 confirmed with 8 deaths), the UK got up to 5687 confirmed cases (with 281 deaths recorded). The day on day increase in confirmed cases in the UK was 134 to reach 594, and 10 days later it was 669 to get up to 5687. The UK wasn't in lock down at this stage, though there was already advice being given not to go to pubs.These figures taken from WHO situation reports.

Andrew Jones ● 2398d

I think we can agree on one thing, in that we’ll never know what the figures would have been if lockdown decisions had been contrary to whatever decision was made. I don’t even trust the figures that we’re being given. However, my understanding is that the vast majority of people are affected very little by ‘COVID-19’, which suggests to me that a more considered approach to isolation rather than a blanket lockdown and business shutdown would have been of greater benefit to society as a whole; so we’ll just have to wait and see what happens, and then look back in a year or two and decide whether we think society has benefited as a whole from the government’s decision.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

I am bored playing with you Dickie, no banter about you, I am bored of Jimmy Jimmy which wasn’t even one of your lines.Don’t end up like one of  my other Stalker!

James Smith-Jones ● 2398d

James, please ignore or this will go on forever.

Janice Evans ● 2398d

I will Janice. I have enjoyed playing the trolls at their own childish name calling which “they” don’t like up em. You have a happy Easter and keep safe

James Smith-Jones ● 2398d

Going back to original post, have you seen the large freezer units at some of the crematoriums, and America now having mass burials.  We need to stay home to help everyone else.

Janice Evans ● 2398d

Michael Brown ● 2398d

Michael, for once I agree with a lot of what you've written. True, we'll never know what the figures would have been if the decisions made had been different. And I'm sure that we can't meaningfully make a direct comparison between different country's figures - what counts as a COVID19 death in one country may not count as a COVID19 death for another country. And in time, if the virus doesn't mutate too much (and at the moment that appears hopefully to be the case) then the vast majority infected will not die from COVID19.What I take issue with though, is your sensationalist post "Death by Lock Down" where you tried (and I believe have been shown to have failed) to suggest that as a result of some countries choosing to implement lock downs, that the death rates in these countries were higher than in countries where you said there was no lock down, and that lock downs didn't diminish the death rate; or, at the very least you tried to show that impositions of lock downs had no demonstrable effect on death rates e.g. your comparison of Belarus with Australia and New Zealand.I don't expect you to agree with me, you probably view me as someone who is having the wool pulled over my eyes. So be it - I'm happy to let the ChiswickW4 forum contributors (and lurkers) form their own opinions on which of us is more likely to be forming a reasonable and valid opinion of what is really going on.

Andrew Jones ● 2398d

You're right, I don't agree with you. Watch the video I posted at 21.52 on this thread. All evidence points towards DEATH  BY  LOCKDOWN.

Michael Brown ● 2398d

Do you spend all day sucking your thumbs for inspiration for these puerile names, or do you get some time to play with your crayons?

Roger Talbot ● 2398d

If you want the full list, you can find it here, it is updated everyday.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/countries-confirmed-cases-coronavirus-200125070959786.htmlThe one thing you haven’t factored in is which version of Covid-19 each country has.Viruses in general mutate as they are transferred becoming more deadly and after peaking become less deadly. The Proceeding of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) are reporting that there are about 100 variations of Covid-19 so far. The low death count in China is probably because it was less deadly rather than any lockdown actions they took. Likewise in Europe it is more deadly because that is what viruses do rather than because of a lack of a lock down. I am not intelligent enough to know which countries have which variation (you need to be able to read DNA sequencing, or understand phylogenetic networks to know for yourself) but at a guess China had Covid-19v1, Italy France and the Uk has got Covid-19v90 and Spain and America have Covid-19v100. Looking at yesterdays data it looks like it has appeared in Germany later and is less deadly.Unless you know which country has which variation the comparisons on how effective a lockdown is are pointless.https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117

Colin Potter ● 2397d

I don't know if you understand that your reply was baiting Michael.  The very thing you said you did not understand?

Caroline Carney ● 2397d

You obviously know the river Michael do you think the higher than usual tide may be due to the lack of river traffic?

Caroline Carney ● 2397d

It’s time to learn from third world countries and STAY HOME.  Why are some people being so precious about exercising outside and dog walking?? It’s pathetic and going out for a jog or cycle is highly irresponsible. “ as South Africans mark their first week under one of the strictest lockdowns introduced anywhere in the world - no jogging outside, no sales of alcohol or cigarettes, no dog-walking, no leaving home except for essential trips and prison or heavy fines for law-breaking - there is an argument to be made that a government so often attacked as corrupt and inefficient, and a private sector so often seen as aloof and greedy, are rising to meet what is widely anticipated to be the greatest challenge this young democracy has ever seen. The police are using rubber bullets to ensure people stay at home. They are beating Covid-19 whilst Britain flounders and more people die.

Steve Taylor ● 2397d

Bet my crayons are  bigger than yours Rodger the todger Talbot!

James Smith-Jones ● 2397d

"do you think the higher than usual tide may be due to the lack of river traffic?"No, the higher tides this weekend are part of the usual pattern which varies according to the relative positions of Earth, Moon and Sun.  The tides today are largely in line with predictions made a year ago.  As this afternoon's high tide approaches the (open) Thames Barrier, it's running about 0.1 metre above prediction.  The lack of river traffic would not affect the height.

Richard Jennings ● 2397d

Of course they are.

Roger Talbot ● 2397d

What’s happening at the Excel Nightingale Hospital? I thought we’d have been shown footage of ambulances pulling up outside and people being rushed in, and maybe shown chaotic scenes from inside, but I’ve not seen anything. Is anybody in there?

Michael Brown ● 2397d

If there’s no-one in there, what are the 500 beds, with room for 3,500 more, doing there? Are they really there for another purpose – perhaps in preparation for civil unrest due to the corona fraud?

Michael Brown ● 2397d

Thanks Colin for providing that link and the insight.

Andrew Jones ● 2397d

You better get some rest Mickey, you on fire these last few days, you might be accused of being an attention seeker. How those photography classes coming along?

James Smith-Jones ● 2397d

There's nobody in there is there?Moving on...

Michael Brown ● 2397d

People are dying like flies in the UK yet still this government is allowing the morons to jog, cycle, walk dogs and spread the virus. These Eton boys have no idea at all. There is no leadership; no strategy from these wet and weak whimps.

Steve Taylor ● 2397d

You're wasting your time, Taylor. You're an exposed shill. Long exposed. Everybody knows.

Michael Brown ● 2397d

Oh I forgot the turds out on the Thames.

Steve Taylor ● 2397d

The British government has been very slow to test people for ‘COVID-19’, and there’s a reason for this. The test is phony, and many healthy people will test positively, so the death/test percentage rate would drop so low, it would be difficult to justify the lockdown and continued collapse of the economy hence they continue to test those dying with cancer, heart disease etc. in hospitals.

Michael Brown ● 2396d

"..morons to jog, cycle, walk dogs and spread the virus.."Oh, that was you going up and down the road, first jogging, then cycling, then walking the dog, Steve ? I wondered what was going on.

Richard Greenhough ● 2396d

It's kicking off nice and early today, chaps, but please try to make it good clean fun.

Roger Talbot ● 2396d

Forum troll dullards are out for you today Steve I see, what a collection, Dick Greenthrash,Rodger the Todger and Mickey Brownturd. only one more missing for the full set. Lets see how long before he raises his ugly head mumbling!

James Smith-Jones ● 2396d

"No one ever listenedTo a single word he saidJimmy Jimmy ...Silly boy Silly boy Silly boySuch a silly boy"

Richard Greenhough ● 2396d

Julian Pavey ● 2396d

Well Michael Brown has swayed me finally. I shall be digging an underground shelter in my garden, steel lined and with a submarine like screw top hatch accessible via a retractable ladder. I shall fill it with bazookas and shotguns and tins of beans, pasta and loo rolls in preparation for the Deep State who I now believe will be coming for each and every one of us with their vaccinations. Not for me, I'd rather take my chances in the bunker!

Chris Blackwell ● 2396d

Yep. The UK has got to be the worst in the world for handling this crisis. Why can't we follow the lead of China, Germany and even South Africa. Why is the UK government wanting so many more of us to die?

Steve Taylor ● 2395d

Downing Street has urged people to follow social distancing guidance after the country's most senior police officer was filmed clapping for carers on a crowded Westminster Bridge.Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick led dozens of officers in the weekly applause for key workers at 8pm on Thursday.A video posted to the force's Twitter account shows her standing in front of officers, who are lined up with gaps in front of police vehicles along the bridge near Parliament

Steve Taylor ● 2391d