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Now you resort to the personal attack.  I have no involvement or association with the Pisarro project whatsoever. I'm a planning consultant.  And to blow my trumpet, one of the reasons why I'm a bloody good planning consultant is that I've spent 21 years working on all sides of the fence, I've worked for Councils, I've worked for housebuilders, I've worked for small consultancies, I've worked for multi-national multi-disciplinary consultancies and I've worked for myself.But most importantly, and reflecting the above broad experience, I frequently act on behalf of objectors, be they individual residents or residents groups.  Indeed it's something I quite enjoy doing, because it keeps you on your toes and it can be quite satisfying to rip a poor scheme to shreds.As I frequently am, I was approached by an acquaintance in Ealing last week and asked to review a 44 unit scheme, in order to advise whether I thought there were legitimate grounds to object and whether it might be beneficial for me to prepare an objection on behalf of the locals.I spent 2 hours of my Sunday (for free) reviewing that application and subsequently pointed out lots of minor shortcomings within the application that collectively add up to a strong basis for the application to be refused.  I don't take on work for the sake of it, and in the same way I'll turn down work from applicants if I don't think they have a hope in hell of obtaining permission I'll also decline requests to object to applications on behalf of residents if I don't think there's any basis to do so, because I don't believing in taking people's money just to put together an objection which I don't believe in. If the client instructs me on this site in Ealing, my fees to prepare that detailed representation will be less than £1k.  On the same application to date there's been over 630 objections, the vast majority of which are so meaningless or have no relevance to planning considerations that they belong in the bin.  There's also a thread on Ealing Today about it where the usual wild accusations are being made by a couple of posters.It's not about how deep anyone's pockets are, it's about being able to present credible arguments.If you want to support someone in throwing £25k of local people's money at a hopeless attempt at a JR, that's up to you.  But, as you keep banging on about the local community and correctly point out I not longer live in the area, I'd suggest that simply by being honest and non-sensational I'd giving a sight more to the community in this respect than you are.

Adam Beamish ● 2634d

I too, as I am sure 100’s of other ‘regular’ visitors to Pissaros miss the destination at the end or middle of a River Thames walk for a warm welcome followed by a coffee, a lunch, dinner or glass of something nice in a beautiful location albeit a pretty ugly building - but who noticed that when enjoying the hospitality and view from inside? There’s a similarly ‘ugly’ venue on the slipway at Lulworth Cove where there’d be an uproar if that were to be turned into flats or another other more aesthetic and commercially viable property. The banks of the Thames has become a cash cow for developers (plus the local council) and increasingly more inaccessible to walkers/the local general public who do not want/can’t afford to live in faux riverside wharf apartment blocks which are built over a Sainsburys Local, a couple of other hugely expensive commercial units which inevitably are let to chi chi coffee shops/trendy ad agencies or niche health club type places.Pissaros wasn’t perfect on many fronts BUT it was a social hub for locals, many of whom were patrons of the original on Kew Green and a very welcoming stop off for anyone who dropped in regardless of whether they were families with children of any age, an elderly relative, a dog or two. Business lunches/meetings, romantic dinners for two - it successfully catered for pretty much any eventuality. In all the years I visited, for whatever occasion, sometimes a couple of times a week or a month I never had a poor meal or experience. I felt comfortable recommending it to anyone from anyone visiting from overseas or otherwise regardless of their ‘gastronomic’ expectations because it was quite unique in its location... like the old Thai restaurant on Strand on the Green almost directly opposite...a quirky venue with character in its essence rather than its physical presentation.  It’s such a shame these lovely independent eateries are being wiped out and being replaced by faceless, soulless, non local owner restaurant chains that can afford the vastly increased rents or empty units with ‘To Let’ on the boarded up windows.

Joy Griffiths ● 2634d

To be fair, as in any walk of life, there are some 'bad eggs' out there.  I do know of verified cases (rather than just wild speculation) where developers have offered bribes, or where an Council employee has taken one, or where Council staff deliberately misled a member of the public to cover up their own failings.So I'm not saying it doesn't happen.  I've also never been comfortable with the notion of local authority employees attending property conferences like MIPIM, because whilst I very much doubt anything untoward goes on to me it's all about perception.However, people should be more careful and think things through before, as the Save Pissarro's Facebook page demonstrates, normally rational and intelligent individuals start throwing words around such as "corruption" and "bribes" and "lies" just because a decision hasn't gone their way.  And the people who post such things clearly don't have a basic grasp of how the process works, reflected by how someone who stood in the elections is talking about whether anyone knows anyone in the GLA, as though the GLA have some kind of superiority over the Secretary of State.  Had the decision gone the other way, no doubt the reaction would have been that the right decision was made, that our faith in the planning system has been vindicated, that the Inspector was beyond reproach and so forth.When I am representing developers, when objectors start making wild accusations and such like that's the point I know that the credibility of their objections has just been destroyed.  Equally, when I'm acting on behalf of a group of residents, there's always 1 resident who is a "loose cannon" and I'll always say to the group "I'll only take this one if you keep that individual away from the public domain, because otherwise they're going to ruin our chances."

Adam Beamish ● 2633d

Diana,My fundamental point is this - if you or others are so certain that corruption has taken place, then, in my blunt northern tone, put up or shut up.I as much as the next person wants anyone involved in the development control process who is dodgy, corrupt or such like to be dealt with appropriately.But time and time again I come across situations where rational people lose all grasp of reality at a public meeting or on social media and make serious allegations without a shred of evidence to support them.  And, as I said last night, it is purely because they've got the hump that the decision hasn't gone their way.  I always say to people - take a step back and look at this logically.  Is a Council Officer, a Planning Inspector or such like going to risk their entire career to take a bribe ?.  Yes, there's the occasional 'bad egg' that might, but 99.9% of the time there's no smoke and there's no fire.And yet people make these accusations so easily and without stopping to consider for one minute what the poor sod who is being accused has to go through.When I was at Hounslow an individual was annoyed that my team was investigating breaches of planning control at his property, he complained to me about the Officer dealing with the case not being fair so I took over the case.  My sixth sense told me this individual was 'dodgy' and would probably try to set me up when I wasn't any more receptive to him than my colleagues.  One day I was in meetings all morning and my colleagues said that my phone had repeatedly been called by a women who wouldn't give her name or leave a number, or what it was about and only wanted to speak to me.Sensing something was up, when the woman rang and I answered the call I got my colleagues to witness precisely what I said.  During our conversation I said "yes, we have quite a problem with outbuildings in the Borough".2 days later there's a formal complaint from this individual I'm investigating saying that I told his wife that we have quite a problems with Asians in the Borough.I had to go through the palaver of a full internal investigation, and suffice to say it's a good job that I was savvy enough to realise something was up and ensure my colleagues witnessed my conversations.  Yet my Director at the time, even after he'd established the facts, still wrote a response to the individual apologising that he'd felt it necessary to make a complaint.Needless to say I was outraged, someone tried to ruin my career and yet even after my Director established that it was a set-up he's still writing to that individual apologising that they've had to complain.So understand where I'm coming from.

Adam Beamish ● 2633d

Loraine,I could write a book about certain Councillors at Hounslow.    Whether any ever took bribes I have no knowledge of whatsoever, but the usual line that these Councillors started with when they called me was "this person is a major contributor to our party so we (the Councillors) have to be seen to be helping them".I was asked (in a very polite and gentle manner) on more than one occasion to write a "gentle" committee report in regard to an enforcement investigation and my response was always the same, i.e. "you know me, it'll be a detailed, thorough but fair report".  Everytime I spoke with any Councillor from any party the content of that conversation was logged afterwards by me on a form which every employee had for precisely such occurrences, and recorded accordingly.A couple of Councillors were, quite frankly, idiots (and I don't like to speak ill of the dead) and didn't seem to realise that their 'antics' would have consequences.  Before I joined Hounslow one Area Committee had already been warned by the Scrutiny Committee about its behaviour when it came to decisions on planning enforcement matters.  During my time at the Council, the same Councillors on the same committee carried on that behaviour, and what happened was that were instrumental in persuading the Committee to just (5-4 I recall) overturn a recommendation to take enforcement action, and that overturn was so absurd it flew completely in the face of the Council's planning policies and guidance.Not surprisingly, the person who had first complained about the unauthorised development (and who was present at the committee meeting) made a formal complaint about the behaviour of certain Councillors at that meeting, which not only generated an internal investigation but also resulted in the Local Government Ombudsman investigating.  Indeed I was interviewed by the Ombudsman, and I showed the Ombudsman all the records I had of how certain Councillors had engaged with me and such like.As is well known, that investigation resulted in that Area Committee being stripped of its enforcement decision making powers for 12 months.After I left in 2006, one of those Councillors (Mohinder Gill) didn't learn his lesson and from what I read about the case he tried to cast doubt on the evidence of aerial photography in an attempt to avoid enforcement action being taken.  Another Councillor was stupid enough not only to breach planning control but then to ignore requests to remedy the breach, resulting in an enforcement notice being served, which he then didn't comply with and ended up being prosecuted in court.From what I've just read in the public domain as I understand it LBH spent £45k of tax payers money defending its own findings of impropriety against then Councillor Mohinder Gill, so it wasn't the Council paying his legal fees, but being forced to incur costs defending themselves against an appeal process he instigated.But before anyone gets political about any of what I've just written, my last job in local government involved 9 weeks at a Conservative run authority where I quickly uncovered a culture whereby the Director, if told to do someone by a Councillor, would do so without question.  That led to the situation, and I still have emails in my possession showing this, where when it transpired the Council was unable to take formal enforcement action because, due to staff shortages or pure oversight, committee resolutions hadn't been actioned and the associated development was consequently now immune for enforcement action.  But such failings were covered up, and in one case (the one I keep emails about) 2 of the senior management team lied to an member of the public and got them to incur tens of thousands of pounds of expense changing a development which was, by that time, perfectly legal.  To cover my back I sent an email to those 2 Officers pointing and their response was "yes, you're completely right, but it's the right result for us".  After 9 weeks of such shenanigans I was ordered to do something similar, which I refused to do, and the upshot of that was that I was suspended, then attended an employment hearing at which I was told that I'd failed my probation, yet without ever asking for anything I was told that I was being given a 5 figure sum anyway.And I kid you not, the Director at said Council was awarded an OBE a few years back for "services to the community".So the point of this extremely long and somewhat off-tangent post is that no-one knows more than me about the 'antics' that can go on inside local government.  But, at the same time, just because a planning appeal is allowed, no-one should immediately cry 'corruption' unless they have the documented evidence to support such a serious claim.

Adam Beamish ● 2633d